IS Manny Pacqiuao the best?

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Manny Pacquiao is the best boxing entretainer there is. He will give you an exciting fight no matter his opponent. Now as far as boxing ability he is not the "best", but he is the best at what he does and that is to beat fighters down- I agree with this, even till now. However, he is getting better and better. He has less weaknesses. But IMO he should fight better fighters in equal terms, just to see a good slugfest.

pacquiao is to big to keep making weight at 130, its probably weakening him. his last fight he came in at 147, which is welterweight.... I don't think its that he's avoiding guzman, Pacquiao just can't be killing himself to make weight anymore, esp since each fight he gets bigger, weighs more. Ether way, Pacquiao would beat Guzman imo. He is the best fighter at featherweight, hands down, his resume speaks volumes. Look at the past 10 fighters he has fought, all top notch fighter's with good resumes themselves.

i would say he's the best but he does NOT need to prove himself he's done that all ready the rest is just peoples opions

Manny's the man, period. As a fan, yeah I'd love to see him fight Guzman and/or Valero, I'd love to see him fight Casa, Diaz, Nate, all those guys, but Mannys credibility speaks volumes

Manny Pacquiao is the best boxing entretainer there is. He will give you an exciting fight no matter his opponent. Now as far as boxing ability he is not the "best", but he is the best at what he does and that is to beat fighters down-

Most people? Americans don't know him. Media or a growing majority despises him, more and more recognize him for being a pussy. A pacfan is a fan who upholds COURAGE, DIGNITY, and HONOR. Qualities that Fake FLoyd never possessed. A lover of punks and cowards will of course defend Fake FLoyd to the very end. Come on man. Dont try to get poetic here. Pacman seems to run away from good boxers and loves to box older fighters who were excellent at one point. The only one he fought was that was in his prime, was Marquez, thats it!! Bob Arum is his puppetmaster. Saving him from hard fights. from people who can really whoop him. Some Filipinos get upset throw tantrums and act like he's the best thing since Sliced Bread. In the Philippines he is, in America and the rest of the world he's not. Juan Diaz called him out, Bob Arum and Pacman wont and have not said anything. They will fight Juan Diaz once he's ready to stop boxing If Pacman stays at 135lbs he's in trouble. ALOT OF TROUBLE. thats why Bob Arum wants him to fight hatton after Diaz. Why? 135 is too much of a risk for Bob Arum and Pacman.

JMM was not rob of anything. Even the media and fans who scored it for JMM said it wasn't. The fight was closed and it could go either way. They have judges to score the fight because if you let fans score it, there will be bias. Like one boxing site said, the judges sees something diffirent about the fight than us fans, who are watching it on tv. It might be a split decion win cuz of that knockdown, but Pac beat JMM, fair and square.

I had the JMM rematch 114-113 Pac, I scored it the same as Leaderman except the last round Ha? Lederman had it 115-112 for Pacquiao.

straight left. he's a southpaw. how'd you score the fight nicky? i had it 114-113 manny scoring it the 2nd time around as objectively as i can but there are a lot of rounds that could've gone either way. weird thing is i scored the 7th for manny and all 3 judges scored that round for juan so i can see it either way as well. i think he got lucky as in the close decision went for him instead of juan which it could very well have gone to. but i don't think he got lucky in that he lost the fight clearly but was given a gift. the fight was just close and i think it always will be against those 2. they are perfect to fight each other. each's strength goes against the other's weakness. Just llike you, i scored the 11th round to Pacquiao but the judges scored it for JMM. Pacquiao was landing punches while JMM, even though countrer punching, was hitting gloves and air. I had it 7 rounds to 5 Pacquiao.

I wont argue but I can't see why floyd had better oppositons than him. please explain :boxing:

I had the JMM rematch 114-113 Pac, I scored it the same as Leaderman except the last round i had it the same 114-113 for manny when i watched it again just to score it. i tried to be as objective as i could and that's what i came out with. to be honest with you a lot of the rounds i didn't know who to give it to so i can see how others could see it the other way. i don't know how people claim robbery though.

Depends what he's best at. Best pound for pound? No. Best 130 pounder? Yes. Best 135 pounder? No.

Don't be a hypocrite. A pacfan admires COURAGE, HONOR, DIGNITY, STRENGTH OF CHARACTER, SPECTACULAR WINS... Since you are a Fake Floyd fan... Those notions are alien to you. So don't pretend to be a Pacfan dude. Because a man who values COURAGE, DIGNITY, HONOR, ETC will puke at what Fake Floyd the coward is doing right now... And yet you have him as your p4p. What a fcking hypocrite you are dude. first off. those are all good traits but hardly needed in boxing. does tyson have dignity? honor? second. i'm not a floyd fan. i watch his fights mostly when it's free on hbo. i cough up ppv money only for his big fights. that being said i don't like how floyd acts and i don't like that he hasn't fought cotto or margarito yet just like almost everyone else. the reason he's #1 on my p4p is because of his skills and his previous record. castillo was no easy fight at 135. corrales was a monster at 130. i just judge him fairly. as for me not being a pacman fan. who are you to say who i'm a fan of or not? i have watched every single fight he's had since the ledwaba fight. if it's about like or dislike i would have him no. 1 instead no. 2 on my list but it's not all about who you like. i look at it objectively. manny is great and one can argue he has fought better opposition than floyd and fought better as well but p4p is resume AND skills. as great as manny is , to think he has better skills than floyd is just ignorant.

Pacquiao has great speed and power but as far as boxing ability he still lacks a bit. He's improved no doubt but I think that's as far as he'll progress with Freddie Roach in his corner.

Because you are a coward who prefers other cowards of course you do have Fake FLoyd as your p4p. Pac is the best. There is nothing in Fake Floyd's resume which resembles anyone in class comparable to wins over JMM, Mab and Morales. you need to just shut the fuck up. you're getting annoying. i'm as much a pacfan as you are , moron. i just don't talk out of my ass like you do.

Pac ain't the best just yet. I assume you mean p4p. He could increase his chances of gettin that acclaim by unifying the belts at 135 without losing though. Floyd will lose his standing soon if he don't fight the Cotto-Tony winner after DLH.

Agreed, I scored it off the top of my head with my brother but I was distracted for large parts of it texting my friend about ranging from; how boring it was, and how Calzaghe was in trouble (1st 4 rounds) and then how Calzaghe aint going to knock him out and that he's really poor tonight. Don't worry they won't fight again. I think Calzaghe should have done this a few years back, then he could have tooken on Jones, and Tarver (Both beatable.) And right now take on Pavlik to seal the deal of his legacy. Ah well Frank Warren knows better. yeah. i like joe. i think he has great skills. the only question mark i had about him was his level of competition. would've liked to see him against hopkins , toney , jones , etc. a few years back when those guys were in their prime. i don't know if he could have beaten them but aside from maybe roy i think he would've been competitive. frank warren? didn't he promote hamed too? maybe that's why he got gunshy about taking joe to america?

Lmao that's embarrassing for me. Still high from passing my driving test. I can't remember what I scored it, but I definitely remember thinking that the judges could easily give it to either man . Manny got caught quite a few times, and kind of gave it (indicate his opponent hit him with a good shot) away by doing his little battle cry by banging his gloves together. Either way it was a great match up, and I felt bad there had to be a loser. When I watched the Calzaghe fight I had Joe winning my 1 point, being as neutral as possible. I thought the American judges would give it to Hopkins, and started ti worry especially when I heard the first judge's card. lol nah......everyone is just so used to saying straight or overhand right and left hook. there's just not too many southpaws out there outside of asia. funny thing is us in europe and america thinks southpaws are rare but almost every single flyweight or featherweight i see from philippines or japan is a southpaw. thailand too but they're not really natural southpaws more due to how they stand in muay thai 'cause most of their boxers are converted kickboxers. manny-juan is so hard to judge. juan has great defense and very technical so manny can't really land flush but manny hits so hard that he hurts him. manny on the other hand doesn't have great defense so he gets caught flush and it looks pretty for juan but he just doesn't have the pop to really hurt manny. once in a while but he can't consistently hurt manny like erik did. i remember thinking manny lost the 1st time i saw manny-juan 2 or a draw because i threw a party and didn't score round by round. but when i scored it round by round i had manny win by 1 point. i see how it could go the other way though. as far as joe-nard. i hope they never EVER fight again. dull fight to be honest with you. i think joe won maybe 8-4 or 7-5. he was just more active. in a dull fight the guy punching or trying to punch wins imo. i didn't score round by round when i watched it live though and i could be wrong but you couldn't pay me enough to watch that fight again to score it round by round. i say hop retire and joe make some money with jones and tarver before you retire.

1.) Is Manny Pacqiuao the best or should he fight Joan Guzman and/or Edwin Valero to prove it? 2.) Should he fight Juan Manuel Marquez to prove he's the best (he only won one fight and that fight was too close)? 3.) If Pacman fights David Diaz and Nate Campbell and wins should he even be considered for being the best? I dont think so. Everyone knows he's going to win over David Diaz and he'll win over Nate Campbell(thats if Nate gets tested for drugs before and after the fight)JMM WON THE 2ND FIGHT.....HE WAS ROBBED I DONT GIVE A DAMN WHAT ANYONE SAYS I WATCH THE FIGHT AND CAN GIVE FAIR JUDGEMENT AND THAT FIGHT SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT LEAST A DRAW AT THE LEAST