Considering Manny is moving up in weight & Hatton signing a deal with Golden Boy, is this fight a possibility in 2009?
Who wins?
Pac is too small... I don't know if Pac's power will even carry to 135.
Look, Manny has more punching power than Mayweather at a lower more natural fighting weight.
However, He does not hit harder than Mayweather who has grown into WW. Mayweather dropped Hatton with one punch. Don't you think PBF can KO lightweights? How many lightweights has Manny ko'd? He has 4 ko's at lightweight two of them against Morales the other 2 against b & c class fighters. All of those 6 fighters he fought at LW started their careers lighter than 130.
If your still not convinced we can just agree to disagree.
No worries bud! I'm not confused! Anyway you want to slice & dice it fact is Hatton is the naturally bigger man. Hatton is natural JrW & has felt power from harder punchers. Hatton will walk through Manny!
Manny does not hit harder than Mayweather plain & simple!
If Manny does not hit harder than Mayweather then why does Mayweather not have a higher KO ratio on his record?? You could argue that he prefers to box and potshot his opponents into demoralizing submission....but why waste the energy of making a fight go 12 when he obviously has all the speed and quickness and power in the world to counter his opponents into crushing KOs and end fights early. which would be just as demoralizing. The reason is because he doesnt have KO power. He just hits his opponents at such a higher ratio than his opponents hit him that the accumulation over several rounds take their toll. I'm talking about raw punching power. The kind of power that a fighter could be losing every minute of every round through 11 and still be able to walk away the winner in the 12th.
Dont get yourself confused. Fighting at 140 is definitely a big hurdle for Pacquiao and Hatton will be the odds favorite. But the fact that Hatton burns about 40-50 pounds is the very reason that Pacquiao will be competitive against him. As far as the power goes...yes Hatton noticed the difference in power between the higher weight classes. But to think mayweather has ko power is silly. Just look at all the guys at welter and you wouldnt have enough fingers to count all the fighters that hit harder than floyd just in that weightclass. What I am referring to is that if Pacquiao were the same size as floyd which he would be fighting at 140 then he would definitely have alot more power behind his punches than mayweather
No worries bud! I'm not confused! Anyway you want to slice & dice it fact is Hatton is the naturally bigger man. Hatton is natural JrW & has felt power from harder punchers. Hatton will walk through Manny!
Manny does not hit harder than Mayweather plain & simple!
Dude, I didn't say that about those fights. I knew Pac would be competitive against those fighters who were at least in or around his weight class at one point.
I will however add my name to this list! Pac will lose badly to Hatton who never fought lower than 140 and cuts about 30 lbs to make that weight. Manny walks around at about a lil over the 140 weight.
Don't add your name to the list of people who think Pac can compete legitimately above 135. 135 is a big hurdle for him! why don't you at least see how he does at 135 before you match him up against anyone above 135.
Dont get yourself confused. Fighting at 140 is definitely a big hurdle for Pacquiao and Hatton will be the odds favorite. But the fact that Hatton burns about 40-50 pounds is the very reason that Pacquiao will be competitive against him. As far as the power goes...yes Hatton noticed the difference in power between the higher weight classes. But to think mayweather has ko power is silly. Just look at all the guys at welter and you wouldnt have enough fingers to count all the fighters that hit harder than floyd just in that weightclass. What I am referring to is that if Pacquiao were the same size as floyd which he would be fighting at 140 then he would definitely have alot more power behind his punches than mayweather
People said the same thing when Pac went up against Barrera the first time.
Said the same thing when Pac went up against Morales 3 times.
And they were all wrong.
I suggest don't add yourself to them.
Dude, I didn't say that about those fights. I knew Pac would be competitive against those fighters who were at least in or around his weight class at one point.
I will however add my name to this list! Pac will lose badly to Hatton who never fought lower than 140 and cuts about 30 lbs to make that weight. Manny walks around at about a lil over the 140 weight.
Don't add your name to the list of people who think Pac can compete legitimately above 135. 135 is a big hurdle for him! why don't you at least see how he does at 135 before you match him up against anyone above 135.
OMG... People actually think Pac hits harder than PBF!
Even Hatton said he can feel the difference in the punching power at welter when he fought PBF. This is coming from a guy who took everything Kosta threw at him and Kosta was one of the hardest punchers in the game.
Manny has no chance against Hatton! This is just a money fight!
i don't know about that......
floyd's punching power is on par if not better than manny's. floyd's power is underestimated because he's not a ko guy he's a boxer.
plus hatton will have no problems getting to manny compared to getting to a slickster like floyd.
I disagree about floyd's power. His KOs have been because he thows so fast they never saw it coming which is different from raw punching power. Also what did hatton in against floyd wasnt slickness but quickness. He simply was never able to set his feet to punch or keep up with mayweather's pace. Pacquiao is every bit as quick as mayweather and can definitely be taught by roach to use his movement to dictate the pace. i could probably see him going in and out throughout the fight. Hatton will still be bigger and have the advantage but im telling you this fight will be more competitive and entertaining than it seems. You would definitely get your money's worth for this ppv.
I think 135lb is too big for Pacman, so there is no way in hell he's going to move up & fight the lineal 140 champ in Hatton & escape with a victory! Hatton KO PacMAn :boxing:
180 but not in a good way. 180lbs of beer and burgers ala fernando vargas. He had the goods to beat mayweather silly but instead the fight showed the drinking and bad eating habits have taken their toll and he's mighty ripe for an upset. If a quick handed mayweather with no real KOpower can knock hatton out COLD. then a quick handed Pacquiao with a cannon left would give hatton brain damage if it found a way to land. This fight would be alot more competitive than it seems on paper.
i don't know about that......
floyd's punching power is on par if not better than manny's. floyd's power is underestimated because he's not a ko guy he's a boxer.
plus hatton will have no problems getting to manny compared to getting to a slickster like floyd.
If a quick handed mayweather with no real KOpower can knock hatton out COLD. then a quick handed Pacquiao with a cannon left would give hatton brain damage if it found a way to land.
Yes but Hatton ate dozens of clean shots for three straight rounds before geting caught with a big hook and stumbling into the ring post. Furthermore he was TKOd, not knocked cold. And he was moving up in weight and underestimated Floyd's power.
Pac is too small to fight off Ricky, he may have some success because he is a southpaw but Hatton will crush him ultimately.
hatton walks around at 180 i hear.
hatton too big. too strong.
he'll rough manny up pretty good.
if it happens i hope it's manny's last fight. good , nice retirement check right there if it happens. what you guys think $8-10 million for manny?
180 but not in a good way. 180lbs of beer and burgers ala fernando vargas. He had the goods to beat mayweather silly but instead the fight showed the drinking and bad eating habits have taken their toll and he's mighty ripe for an upset. If a quick handed mayweather with no real KOpower can knock hatton out COLD. then a quick handed Pacquiao with a cannon left would give hatton brain damage if it found a way to land. This fight would be alot more competitive than it seems on paper.
hatton walks around at 180 i hear.
hatton too big. too strong.
he'll rough manny up pretty good.
if it happens i hope it's manny's last fight. good , nice retirement check right there if it happens. what you guys think $8-10 million for manny?