The first time around, you figure oh yeah, Castillo is shot and the fight would've been more competitive in Castillo's prime. You hear Steward constantly knocking on Castillo's lack of legs in the fight, and inferior handspeed. I kinda felt the same after seeing it live in Vegas.
However, I just rewatched it and I feel differently now. I watched it very closely, every second. Hatton won the 1st two rounds with good speed and a lot of rough-housing, but in rounds 3 and 4 you see Castillo was really fighting back well landing though uppercuts and hooks to the body. Sure, Castillo did not look as good as he did when he rematched Corrales, but he was not totally shot. He was really giving Ricky hell in round 3 and starting to remind me why so many of us found him so remarkable in previous fights vs guys like Lazcano, Diaz, and Corrales. The fight is pretty damn competitive until the KO, which probably would have taken anyone out.
I gotta say, rewatching that fight may do a lot of us some good. Gotta admire Castillo, and also admit that win was bigger for Hatton than previously thought.
It's not about "putting up with the holding." It's about letting them stay together on the inside and fight without constantly intervening to break them up (ie..Jay Nady). It's about letting them actually fight.
I'mm all for that, if they're punching. If not, they SHOULD be seperated, or given a bit of a chance to fight out of it, or do some ACTUAL in-fighting. If it's just a hook and then hold thing with Hatton, if the fight wears on, he should be WARNED at the very least. Holding, excessively shouldn't be allowed. If you're ACTUALLY in-fighting, fine. Get hurt? Sure. But don't just make that your best combo.
1-2-hold. Nah, none of that.
It couldn't just be that the fight goes longer and that Cortez would have to "put up" with the holding for a longer period of time? It has to be that the FIX IS IN?
It's not about "putting up with the holding." It's about letting them stay together on the inside and fight without constantly intervening to break them up (ie..Jay Nady). It's about letting them actually fight.
yeahhhhh right ..those brot fans will fuck up n e floyd fans in there out numberin them 1000 to 1 lol
A lot of Ricky Hattons fans are well on, in terms of age. That's not to insult that. Money is money. I'm just saying.
those band players need to shut the hell up..i hope they get KTFO by some mayweather fans real bad..
yeahhhhh right ..those brot fans will fuck up n e floyd fans in there out numberin them 1000 to 1 lol
I just saw the fight too and I didn't hear much said about Cortez' reffing at all. I thought it was a fair job of reffing. So, I will say it again....If Cortez changes his style tommorrow night...you will know the fix is in.
It couldn't just be that the fight goes longer and that Cortez would have to "put up" with the holding for a longer period of time? It has to be that the FIX IS IN?
Actually, I JUST rewatched the fight and the announcers were actually complaining that Cortez was seperating them TOO much, while they were fighting.
Whether that's a good thing or not isn't my point. Point is, it wouldn't be changing his style. It'd be staying to it.
I just saw the fight too and I didn't hear much said about Cortez' reffing at all. I thought it was a fair job of reffing. So, I will say it again....If Cortez changes his style tommorrow night...you will know the fix is in.
Hatton had alot to do with the way Castillo looked. Castillo is known for being a slow starter anyway. He was coming around in the third but he was clearly feeling the body attack. We all know what happened in the 4th.
The interesting thing about that fight is that Joe Cortez reffed that fight...and he let Hatton do his thing on the inside without interference. IF Cortez changes his style for tommorrow night's fight....then you will know the fix is in. Watch out for this. Personally, I think the fight will be fairly reffed though....Cortez will let them go at it IMO. (fingers crossed)
Actually, I JUST rewatched the fight and the announcers were actually complaining that Cortez was seperating them TOO much, while they were fighting.
Whether that's a good thing or not isn't my point. Point is, it wouldn't be changing his style. It'd be staying to it.
that's not true. there were a lot of people (myself included) who said that castillo was damaged goods before the hatton fight. nobody is the same after those wars he fought. i think that his 64th pro fight.
i just re-watched the hatton-castillo fight as well, and i completely disagree with the thread starter. i saw a shot fight from the opening bell, up until the knockout, which was a beautiful shot by the way.
Same here, i didint see anything from his last fight that could tell me that he could beat a younger and hungrier hatton, there were very few people picking him to win.
A year and a half prior to this fight JLC looked pretty damn good in stopping Corrales. Two fights in between, which he wins. I just don't see how he's "shot." Not 100%, sure. People just don't want to give Hatton any credit for the win.
Temible did not look good, no. But he loses to a World Class fighter (maybe the best in the world come tommorow) and makes it competitive (Yes competitive. Hatton was cut and swollen. Castillo was finding his mark) and all of a sudden he is totally done? No way, Jose (no pun intended).
I didnt see it as competitive. I thought it was clear from the get go, who the stronger and faster fighter was. Castillo looked overwhelmed. When Castillo landed a clean left hook Hatton walked through it and kept punching.
Before the Castillo fight everyone was saying that it was too close to call or they were picking JLC. But then Hatton takes him apart and all of the sudden Hatton beat a shot fighter. Yeah so what if he was more impressive than Floyd beating a retired fighter (DLH) or a clubfighter (Baldomir).
well I picked Hatton by KO, i wasnt suprised to see the outcome.
Another part Castillo was shot on evidence is he could make the weight at 135. Those weight drain will catch you up later in the career like jappen to JLC. Another part is his wars with Corrales which effected him abit.
when you are damaged in the head and face sometimes you heal but not completely healed which could lead to some complication later in the career
those band players need to shut the hell up..i hope they get KTFO by some mayweather fans real bad..
LMAO!!! I was thinking the same thing. The shit is beyond annoying!!!
Plus, Castillo is a slow starter anyway. He started to come around in the third. Then his rib cage caved in.
Pretty much. People have let the idea of that KO blind them as if Castillo wasn't starting to heat up. That shot might have taken anyone in the division out. All I'm saying is, the effort by Castillo was damned good given all the factors.
Nah, Castillo definitely was more competitive than yall give him credit for. Watch closely, and you will see his short shots landing and the look of concern in the corner of Hatton after round 3. Castillo was right there standing with Hatton either way, toughing it out. It was a gutsy performance, and if you watch closely, you will see he was landing his fair share of shots.
Plus, Castillo is a slow starter anyway. He started to come around in the third. Then his rib cage caved in.
Nah, Castillo definitely was more competitive than yall give him credit for. Watch closely, and you will see his short shots landing and the look of concern in the corner of Hatton after round 3. Castillo was right there standing with Hatton either way, toughing it out. It was a gutsy performance, and if you watch closely, you will see he was landing his fair share of shots.
Before the Castillo fight everyone was saying that it was too close to call or they were picking JLC. But then Hatton takes him apart and all of the sudden Hatton beat a shot fighter.
that's not true. there were a lot of people (myself included) who said that castillo was damaged goods before the hatton fight. nobody is the same after those wars he fought. i think that his 64th pro fight.
i just re-watched the hatton-castillo fight as well, and i completely disagree with the thread starter. i saw a shot fight from the opening bell, up until the knockout, which was a beautiful shot by the way.
Before the Castillo fight everyone was saying that it was too close to call or they were picking JLC. But then Hatton takes him apart and all of the sudden Hatton beat a shot fighter. Yeah so what if he was more impressive than Floyd beating a retired fighter (DLH) or a clubfighter (Baldomir).
It's not really impressive at all. He showed glimpses in round 3 of his former self, but still was horribly shot and didn't have his legs.
Was I suprised JLC got knocked out? Yes, but still.
People don't give David Diaz credit because he beat an old Erik Morales. Morales should glimpses of his former self, but at the end of the day, he was old. Same with Castillo.
Hatton had alot to do with the way Castillo looked. Castillo is known for being a slow starter anyway. He was coming around in the third but he was clearly feeling the body attack. We all know what happened in the 4th.
The interesting thing about that fight is that Joe Cortez reffed that fight...and he let Hatton do his thing on the inside without interference. IF Cortez changes his style for tommorrow night's fight....then you will know the fix is in. Watch out for this. Personally, I think the fight will be fairly reffed though....Cortez will let them go at it IMO. (fingers crossed)