This has nothing to do with racism. I have heard this talked about b4. And dont get mad white people that I am leaving you out of this argument. You guys are coming up too. Hatton and Calzaghi.
Anyways, Black guys always say to me a great black boxer beats a great mexican fighter any day.
I am mexican, but so far thats been pretty true.
Chavez got dropped by Randell and schooled by Sweet Pea.
Oscar was too slow for Mosley and to weak for Hopkins.
Duran just got clowned by Sugar Ray L. (I heard Duran's mom or dad is mex, not sure, either way he is latino, same shit. Ok we'll argue that point later)
Can anyone tell me any great mexican fighters that dropped some great blacks?
You have to make this comparison of fighters when they are BOTH in their prime. Perfect example: Chavez vs Taylor they were both undefeated. Taylor BOXED a great fight. Chavez just hurt him too much during the entire fight.
??? are you ok? Very unlikely? haha wow, go out more seriously, you need to. He said it himself, you actually think im making this shit up?
how can 3 parts of a whole be half stupid? if chico said it then you two are stupid becasue you believe him without thinking
actually the mayweather and jesus chavez fight was a great showing of mayweather's defensive skills, he had him punching and punching while missing and missing and eventually by the 7th just ran out of steam
it's actually a gameplan commonly used for mayweather, it's what he did with zab too
no, chavez corner stopped the fight, and just to let you.....chavez isn't a puncher! :eek:
stopped is stopped.
chavez is an accumulation puncher. i have seen plenty of chavez and i respect him as a fighter.
floyd still put it on him, as much as you wouldn't like to admit it.
He doesnt understand it and he never will. Ive tried to emphasize this point to him before, it doesnt matter, if a mexican fighter loses there is always some foolish excuse as to why it happend. Such as Whittaker hitting low repeatedly on Chavez (like chavez never headbutted/low blowed his way to victory and hes exagerrating anyway) or that Vargas outpointed Winky Wright, or that Jesus Chavez was winning, or Jose Luis Castillo lost against mayweather in the 2nd fight because they werent in LA. Or that De La Hoya would KO Winky Wright. Or that Mayweather is scared of a no-name overgrown welterweight named Antonio Margarito.
The list goes on, ive just accepted that the only fighters who really matter to him are mexicans, and he watches to sport to watch mexicans excel and thats basically it.
no, at first i watched boxing to learn. from what you wrote you'd be surprised the fighters i've read about who arn't mexican. if your a boixng fan, and you don't have pride for your own then your own probably don't exile in boxing.
Iwatch is heart broken now that he found out one of his idols is part Mexican lol... Are you still a fan of his iwatch??? I doubt it lmfao..
Iwatch dont cry man its ok :)
lol.....................
At the end of the day none of Chavez' work matters, because he was broken down and stopped by Floyd, who was chopping him up his clean shots all fight long.
Chavez showed his XL huevos, but he was stopped end of...
no, chavez corner stopped the fight, and just to let you.....chavez isn't a puncher! :eek:
Your bias towards mexican fighters is crazy sometimes feroc....
I understand pride...but don't let it get in the way of honesty...
He doesnt understand it and he never will. Ive tried to emphasize this point to him before, it doesnt matter, if a mexican fighter loses there is always some foolish excuse as to why it happend. Such as Whittaker hitting low repeatedly on Chavez (like chavez never headbutted/low blowed his way to victory and hes exagerrating anyway) or that Vargas outpointed Winky Wright, or that Jesus Chavez was winning, or Jose Luis Castillo lost against mayweather in the 2nd fight because they werent in LA. Or that De La Hoya would KO Winky Wright. Or that Mayweather is scared of a no-name overgrown welterweight named Antonio Margarito.
The list goes on, ive just accepted that the only fighters who really matter to him are mexicans, and he watches to sport to watch mexicans excel and thats basically it.
You picked two, horrable, horrable rounds to make your case. Chavez worked for 3 full rounds and won these rounds, while mayweather at most worked 1 minute of these two rounds.
I should educate you a little about chavez but not right now. But i gureentee you Mayweather will not be standing still at all with margarito, and if you think hatton fighting mayweather will look similar to Chavez then i lol, you are talking about two differnt/but little similare styles.
i gurentee you maywather loses in manchester to hatton, mayweathr does not like to get hit in the body and hatton would tie him up and beat him down little by little.
Horrable, horrable rounds to you chose to favor mayweather.
At the end of the day none of Chavez' work matters, because he was broken down and stopped by Floyd, who was chopping him up his clean shots all fight long.
Chavez showed his XL huevos, but he was stopped end of...
A refresher for your memory. That would be Chavez getting his ass kicked.
You picked two, horrable, horrable rounds to make your case. Chavez worked for 3 full minutes and won these rounds, while mayweather at most worked 1 minute of these of each of the two rounds.
I should educate you a little about chavez but not right now. But i gureentee you Mayweather will not be standing still at all with margarito, and if you think hatton fighting mayweather will look similar to Chavez then i lol, you are talking about two differnt/but little similare styles.
i gurentee you maywather loses in manchester to hatton, mayweathr does not like to get hit in the body and hatton would tie him up and beat him down little by little.
Horrable, horrable rounds to you chose to favor mayweather.
Extactly, we all know Duran is not Mexican yet theres alot of rumors persist. I was one of the only Corrales fans here before he fought Castillo, and was an underdog, really in that fight, because most of the boxing commuinty was expecting him to lose.
I'll post the Duran video i have of him saying his dad is Mexian aftet todays fight.
I acutally at first didn't like Chico cause he was to face and then defeated Roberto Garcia -hes from same hometown im from- then little by little with his performances he won me over. Then at the time when i seen him with the Mexican flag i was oh, shit, homies part Mexican so now i was cheering for him. BUT! When he went up against Castillo how can anyone say Chico was going to win or be able to stand with Castillo? No, way in hell, is what i thought and many of use thought. But he did, and surprised the hell out of me how hard he hits and how well he can take punchs.
But at the time of the fight no doubt i was rooting for Castillo who i was more of a fan of and who i'd always root against somebody else.
Its like if you read some of the old boxing books, or listen to people who talk about the LA Olymic Auditorium where lots of great fighters fought their and many great Mexican fighters always fought their it was packed, and they always went for the Mexican, and aunnouncers would also find it strange that even when a Mexican face a Chicano, the Chicanos in the crowd would root for their Mexican, the pure Mexican instead of the Chicano - Mexican/American.
That why i like boxing too, boxing you can root for your people like they used to do back in the day, and nobody screems racist stupid shit. I like when their are fights and say you got a Puerto Rican v. a Mexican and you got half the crowd cheering for their fighter and the other half cheering for their fighter. Its awsome and the environment is awsome.
I went the Chavez v. Delahoya closed circuit ppv. I was at a huge athletic gym, tons of people crowed in just to see Chavez v. Delahoya. Chavez comes on the screen you can hear a mile aways all the racked and holloering and clapping for Chavez. Then Delahoya comes on the screen and all you hear for miles are the boos from the crowd, awsome atmosphere.
Back to what we were talking about, from now on, i'll just look out for when Corrales says he's part Mexican. Though after the first Castillo fight, Corrales did say, somthing like, "i have to talk to Castillo, this is about Mexican Pride" i can still remember when he said that, that reaffirmed he was part Mexican, but i'll just have to wait and liston. Regardless if he is or not, no doubt homie has respect for Mexicans, i know he grew up around Chicanos, epseically being from Scramento.
Extactly, we all know Duran is not Mexican yet theres alot of rumors persist. I was one of the only Corrales fans here before he fought Castillo, and was an underdog, really in that fight, because most of the boxing commuinty was expecting him to lose. Noone even said he was Mexican, or anything, but had watched him fight before..
corrales has had fans for a long time. way before the castillo fight
Jesus Chavez was winning when Chavez corner threw in the towel.
No he wasn't...
Man, Chavez was doing great in that fight...BUT HE WAS NOT WINNING...I didn't think anyone could confuse the scorecard on that....
Your bias towards mexican fighters is crazy sometimes feroc....
I understand pride...but don't let it get in the way of honesty...
Yeah man I know what you mean, shit id even come out only wearing the Mexican flag,lolol, But hey, he had that flag on his shoulder after the fight.
The whole shit is kind of shaddy is all im saying. I know Corrales is firme with Raza, my brother meet him, he's really cool person, my brother took a picture with him and they talked for awhile, he had nothing but good things to say about Chico.
ok, you reminded me about the castillo interview where he did say "this is about Mexican Pride", whats wrong with? Fuck that, i hate a mother fucken fooney wanna be mother fucker claiming to be somthing he aint.
It just very fucken strange for his corner people to be like that with the mexican flag, and to me their is no doubt in my mind that in the manfredy fight, chico didn't chose to have the mexican flag with him during the walk in.
I know my Chicanos, I know my Mexicans, we are some proud vatos.....
Shit id even come out only wearing the Mexican flag,lolol, But hey, he had that flag on his shoulder after the fight, and I know what you mean, it does look like he's forced to comeout with the flag.
Right after the cutman got the flag from his back he unfloded it and waved it, I mean I can even post a picture of that if you still don't belive me. He didnt look scared, its as if he had a face of "oh shit I have to grab it and wave it." I mean whats up with you? you got something against Corrales, shit I do but it doesn't bother me that hes Mexican. He even tells Gary Shaw that he had to see Castillo after his first fight with him and said,"this is Mexican pride", He also said in the interview how her mom was in Mexico and that he missed her.
ok, you reminded me about the castillo interview where he did say "this is about Mexican Pride", whats wrong with? Fuck that, i hate a mother fucken fooney wanna be mother fucker claiming to be somthing he aint.
It just very fucken strange for his corner people to be like that with the mexican flag, and to me their is no doubt in my mind that in the manfredy fight, chico didn't chose to have the mexican flag with him during the walk in.
I know my Chicanos, I know my Mexicans, we are some proud vatos.....
you may have a point, but to me the video that i posted it looked like the trainer was scared corrales may see the mexican flag and why are the flags so small and without the trainer takeing the flag from corrales back their is no other flag.
so then after this fight since on tv now people think hes mexican so now instead of denying it, chico accpets the mexican flag. But till i hear corrales say hes part mexican i ain't beliving shit. Or unless somone quote him then that will be respected to but till then, to me homie ain't mexican.
Right after the cutman got the flag from his back he unfloded it and waved it, I mean I can even post a picture of that if you still don't belive me. He didnt look scared, its as if he had a face of "oh shit I have to grab it and wave it." I mean whats up with you? you got something against Corrales?, shit I do but it doesn't bother me that hes Mexican. He even tells Gary Shaw that he had to see Castillo after his first fight with him and said,"this is Mexican pride", He also said in the interview how her mom was in Mexico and that he missed her.
They threw the flag in the crowd to fans so they can represent it, and Corrales always looks pissed when he enters the ring. His corner man grabbed the flag cause he saw it on his back so he can pull it out and wave it. Freaken Corrales even had the Mexican flag on his shoulder after the fight.
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6476/vlcsnap2621408jx.jpg
This is from the Mayweather fight, I mean he has his damn name on the flag.
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Don't listen to iwatchboxing, he's a dumbass. Why would Corrales come out with a Mexican flag in practically every one of his fights just to disrespect it?.......Corrales is Mexican and a very proud one, nuff said.
you may have a point, but to me the video that i posted it looked like the trainer was scared corrales may see the mexican flag and why are the flags so small and without the trainer takeing the flag from corrales back their is no other flag.
so then after this fight since on tv now people think hes mexican so now instead of denying it, chico accpets the mexican flag. But till i hear corrales say hes part mexican i ain't beliving shit. Or unless somone quote him then that will be respected to but till then, to me homie ain't mexican.
iwatchboxing, i looked at the corrales walk-in where he walks in with the Mexican flag, and i didn't notice this when the fight first aired, but he clearly is not representing Mexicanos. And i think you are right, i don't think he's half Mexican, and now i won't belive he part Mexican untill i hear him say it or he is quoted as saying so. Still a hell of a fighter. But you may be right. And i have the Roberto Duran video where he says he's half Mexican, i'll post it so you can see it. For now here is the corrales video.
They threw the flag in the crowd to fans so they can represent it, and Corrales always looks pissed when he enters the ring. His corner man grabbed the flag cause he saw it on his back so he can pull it out and wave it. Freaken Corrales even had the Mexican flag on his shoulder after the fight.
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/6476/vlcsnap2621408jx.jpg
This is from the Mayweather fight, I mean he has his damn name on the flag.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/9002/vlcsnap2655024ie.jpg
Don't listen to iwatchboxing, he's a dumbass. Why would Corrales come out with a Mexican flag in practically every one of his fights just to disrespect it?.......Corrales is Mexican and a very proud one, nuff said.