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Originally posted by Marvlus Marv View PostOh I get it! You really wanted the fight, but, but, but, but... This guy is unbelievable. If you want to fight bums in Alabama sports halls instead of 100,000 in Wembley stadium, just say. Geesh.
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Originally posted by EnglishOxide View PostYou can't get an exemption from the WBA without a signed contract from Wilder. That's why he or Finkel stalled.
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“No champion (with a belt) should sign a completely one-sided contract for a championship fight. Nor should they sign a contract with pertinent info left out (re: date of event; location of event).
A-side/B-side nonsense don't matter. A championship fight that is gonna draw world attention should be fair and equitable to both fighters - period. The AJ/Hearn nonsense was none of that ... it really is mindless for anyone to insist that a champion fighter should accept any old contract with any kind of blatant unfair and demeaning conditions in it. If a fighter CHOOSES to sign it (for their own reasons) okay, fine ... he signed a bad deal (knowingly by choice). But, if they choose to pass honestly we should all applaud. As fans we should want championship fights to be good deals for the fighters. No fan should be mouthing about a fighters skill, heart, or desire based on said fighter not signing a bullsheet contract. That would be a fan-girl talking. Not a fan, nor an educated adult.
As educated adults, and fight fans, we should want every fighter to get a fair contract, based on the risks and inevitable damage fighters suffer doing their craft.
I'm not anti-AJ or anyone else. But BS is BS. I never remember an opponent of Ali bringing a stinking contract to the public's attention as a complaint. They must have gotten a "reasonable" and decent contract for the time. That's called respecting your opponent, your trade, and ultimately yourself. Particularly in highly anticipated world event types of fights.
BS is BS ... all fans should call it like it is, no matter who you like. Only kids and ignorant people wear blinders when it comes to business (and "root" for their favs regardless) Fight fans want everyone to win and be well in the BUSINESS of the fight.”
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Originally posted by Ray* View PostHopefully this fight happens in 2019, enough talking, hyping or building this fight up. Venue is booked, contract is there. No more excuses from either side.
Honestly the 50 million fiasco we looked sheepish. I’m with them on that. However, whether we like to admit or not Wilder has the power to put Joshua to sleep and who wants to be put to sleep or attend a hospital in the desert . You can not downplay home town support. 89,980 Brits cheering Joshua on in Wembley and 20 token Americans , 16 of Wilder’s family members and 5000 boxing, 1 hour run,Curt Henning and red foxx leading the cheerleading for Wilder will not cut it
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The more excuses Wilder comes up with the more it looks like it's him who ducked the fight. How many excuses is this now 5 or 6 lame excuses as why he wouldn't sign or could not sign.
The Canelo fight being announced is what really killed the fight in Sept as it would of diminished revenue for Joshua/Wilder. Any attempt to have it in that month now would mean a lower purse for both fighters and that would just see Wilder have another excuse to walk away.
The WBA mandatory was always coming, it was due to be agreed by 6th of June, how many extensions does Wilder want the WBA to give? I'm amazed they extended as much as they did. They delayed agreement of the mandatory for 50 days that's already more than anyone should expect.
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Originally posted by Noelanthony View PostNope Americans don’t want to hear that........ “ we offered him 50 million the biggest guarantee in heayweight history it doesn’t matter what he is trying to say now, he is scared. No flat fee, Eddie Hearn is milking Joshua. They don’t want the fight that’s why they offer the flat fee”
Honestly the 50 million fiasco we looked sheepish. I’m with them on that. However, whether we like to admit or not Wilder has the power to put Joshua to sleep and who wants to be put to sleep or attend a hospital in the desert . You can not downplay home town support. 89,980 Brits cheering Joshua on in Wembley and 20 token Americans , 16 of Wilder’s family members and 5000 boxing, 1 hour run,Curt Henning and red foxx leading the cheerleading for Wilder will not cut it
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The one thing wilder didnt try was sign the contract. and there was a rought date in october at cardif discussed with finkle so dont try the "you cant sign a contract without a date and venue" line. infact hearn and debella just made a fight with a provisional contract without a date and venue. the wba btw had already given 7 week long extentions for the teams to sort the fight all while the wba mandatory had been called in april. THE ONLY THING WILDER HAD TO DO WAS SIGN THE CONTRACT HE WAS SENT AND SEND IT BACK!
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