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  • Pit bull wins 1v1.

    I've seen boas and alligators wreck wolves before. Everyone here is trying to make the wolf look invincible.

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    • Originally posted by New England View Post
      people saying a wolf would win without actually making an argument, or knowing what the f#ck they are talking about.


      idiots.
      Through breeding Pit Bulls and all other dogs have a big disadvantage to wolves...wolves have far superior muscle efficiency and bone density...Although Pit Bulls have over developed jaw muscles they cannot bite nearly as hard as a wolf...pit bull muscle may highly favor slow twitch muscle which is why they are accustomed to bite and hold on (which is the case for all "bull" types which were literally bred to catch rats and then bite and hold bulls). Wolves also have some of the most impressive lung efficiency and endurance among mammals. Finally, wolves live over huge territories and articulate very impressive hunting strategies. When dogs were bred, they were NOT conditioned or selected based on their brain power. Thus, early on in their domestication, thousands of years ago, without selection for brain power, their brain's cerebral mass was severely diminished...even the smartest and most well trained dogs have an ultimately smaller brain and are dumber than any wolf.

      Wolf wins.

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      • Originally posted by San Iker View Post
        Pit bull wins 1v1.

        I've seen boas and alligators wreck wolves before. Everyone here is trying to make the wolf look invincible.
        Wait, so because a wolf can be killed by a 700 lb prehistoric armoured killing machine a 75 lb pit bull terrier can beat it in a fight?

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        • A pit bull is or was breed for 1 thing and that's to fight. A wolf was engineered by nature to be wild and hunt for a living, in a pack. In a 1 on 1 fight, the pitbull will beat a wolf because it's breed to fight. Fighting and hunting while similar is not the same.

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          • Originally posted by -Lowkey- View Post
            Through breeding Pit Bulls and all other dogs have a big disadvantage to wolves...wolves have far superior muscle efficiency and bone density...Although Pit Bulls have over developed jaw muscles they cannot bite nearly as hard as a wolf...pit bull muscle may highly favor slow twitch muscle which is why they are accustomed to bite and hold on (which is the case for all "bull" types which were literally bred to catch rats and then bite and hold bulls). Wolves also have some of the most impressive lung efficiency and endurance among mammals. Finally, wolves live over huge territories and articulate very impressive hunting strategies. When dogs were bred, they were NOT conditioned or selected based on their brain power. Thus, early on in their domestication, thousands of years ago, without selection for brain power, their brain's cerebral mass was severely diminished...even the smartest and most well trained dogs have an ultimately smaller brain and are dumber than any wolf.

            Wolf wins.
            most of this crap is hot air. the brain of a dog designed to fight other dogs is more suited than a social, wild animal that hunts large game in a group. the body of the dog bred to fight other dogs [the pit bull] is better suited for fighting other dogs. saying anything to the contrary exhibits ignorance. the brain of a pit bull is not limiting in this context. they aren't hunting for big game in the dead of winter. that's what a wolf was designed to do. they are fighting other dogs. that's what a pit bull was designed to do.

            bull breeds were not bred to catch rats. you clearly have no idea what you are talking about if you think a pit bull was bred to kill rats. you are thinking of "terriers." modern pit bulls were bred to fight other dogs.

            larger breeds of dog have stronger jaws. it's well documented that pit bulls don't bite has hard as big dogs. it's also well documented that they are the most effective fighting dog of all the domestic breeds. again, they were bred to fight, contrary to whatever you believe. i don't doubt that a 70 lb pit bull wouldn't' bite has ahrd as a 120 lb wolf. the 120 lb wolf won't bite has hard as a 200 lb mastiff. a 200 lb mastiff is not the best fighting domestic breed, even if it bites the hardest by virtue of having the biggest jaws with the most robust muscles articulating them.

            a wolf might be able to bite hardest without breaking it's teeth because of it's diet, but that will not matter in a fight between dog sized and shaped animals. it's a mouth designed for hunting and eating large game. a pit bull has a mouth designed for fighting other dogs.

            what isn't registering? a wolf isn't much bigger than a pit bull. it wasn't bred to fight. it's jaws are stronger, but jaw strength is not the determining factor in fights between dogs. it's got a brain designed by nature to fit a niche as a social hunter at the top of the food chain. pit bulls have the brain that developed as they were bred to fight, making completely irrelevant your laughable discussion of canine intelligence

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            • Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
              A pit bull is or was breed for 1 thing and that's to fight. A wolf was engineered by nature to be wild and hunt for a living, in a pack. In a 1 on 1 fight, the pitbull will beat a wolf because it's breed to fight. Fighting and hunting while similar is not the same.
              Wolves fight for mates and dominance. You think wolf society is one long camping trip? It's a bloody and ruthless struggle for survival, the wolf's position in the pack determines whether or not it gets to eat and produce offspring.

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              • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                Wait, so because a wolf can be killed by a 700 lb prehistoric armoured killing machine a 75 lb pit bull terrier can beat it in a fight?


                why is a 120 lb wolf some insurmountable force for a dog that was bred over many generations to fight?

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                • it might be not a h2h monster pitt. unfortunately they shot the wolf in order to save that pitt
                  Last edited by Ogecca MaMa; 07-07-2013, 10:26 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                    Wolves fight for mates and dominance. You think wolf society is one long camping trip? It's a bloody and ruthless struggle for survival, the wolf's position in the pack determines whether or not it gets to eat and produce offspring.


                    fully involved fights in wolf packs are incredibly rare. if you keep a relatively unsocialized pack of dogs and leave them to their own devices they behave similarly.

                    the pecking order is generally established without much fuss. they bite eachother when they eat, get into little scraps here and there, and they get aggressive when it's time to mate, with most fights ending with one guy running away. they aren't getting into "bloody and ruthless struggles" amongst themselves regularly, though i appreciate the hyperbole.



                    i grew up in ipswich massachusetts. you could hear these guys at night. they weren't completely wild animals, but they were on a ton of acres and not caged.
                    http://www.wolfhollowipswich.org/
                    Last edited by New England; 07-07-2013, 10:27 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by squealpiggy View Post
                      Wolves fight for mates and dominance. You think wolf society is one long camping trip? It's a bloody and ruthless struggle for survival, the wolf's position in the pack determines whether or not it gets to eat and produce offspring.
                      And?? A wolf still grabs, shakes and lets go until 1 runs away. A pit bull grabs until it has a firm grip and then holds on until the other passes out or dies and depending on the strength of the breed it won't quit 1st.

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