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  • #21
    Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
    Very few. The southern portion of the pipeline (approved by Obama) was finished a while back; only the northern part was unfinished. Certainly some refinery jobs will be lost, but that's just part of the oil industry.

    I have 40 years experience in the oil industry; trust me it's for the better for US oil production for this foreign oil to stay in the ground. First, it's uneconomic at current prices and it's only socialist Canadian subsidies that get that oil even close to economic, second, why didn't the Canadians move the oil on thei own land? It was because British Columbia prevented a pipeline to their coast to be offloaded on tankers. If the Canadians themselves AND the Canadian First Nation (Indians) didn't want a pipeline, why should we want it?

    There is too much oil on the market anyway. Putting another 850,000 barrels would crater the price...which would be a very bad thing for US producers.
    If keeping the oil in the ground were one of the options, sure. If that is an option I’m not reading that yet. Looks like they are just going to keep extracting the oil, just transporting it differently.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by 4truth View Post
      If keeping the oil in the ground were one of the options, sure. If that is an option I’m not reading that yet. Looks like they are just going to keep extracting the oil, just transporting it differently.
      Yes, they are by rail and pipelines to offshore terminals...just not through the US.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by 4truth View Post
        Was waiting for someone who supports shutting down the pipeline to offer an intelligent argument.....still waiting
        Hey f:ckhead. Hey f:ckhead. Hey f:ckhead. No one has to offer sh:t to your f:ggot ass. Joseph Biden ran his campaign on shutting down the Keystone. Period. It wasn't a secret. R:tard. The majority of U.S. Americans voted for Joseph R. Biden. Game over. Don't like it? 1. Kill yourself. Or, 2. Move out of our country. Or, comedically, do both. No one cares. F:ck you, and yours. We won. F:ck you. The pipeline is going to shut down. In fact, it should be excavated from the Earth and sold for scrap metal. Why? Because it's funny. F:ck you. Win elections. F:ggot.

        Originally posted by HewJohnson View Post
        You mean because of China?

        LMAO you FOOKING moronic imbecile
        R:tard.

        Postscript. 77% of U.S. Americans -- according to Pew Research -- believe it's more important to develop solar and wind energy as opposed to more coal, oil and other fossil fuels. Americans. If you don't like it: move. This is America. Move. We will do what Americans want. Period. Move. And, f:ck you.

        You same imbeciles would be crying about the Pony Express. These automobiles are going to put horseriders out of business! Ford hates the Pony Express! You morons would be against cellular phones. They are going to put payphones and payphone repairman, and beepers out of business. And, against the internet. It's going to put the Lion's Club and mailed newsletters out of business. Pen pals will be out of business. Shut your mouth, r:tards.
        Last edited by DeltaSigChi4; 01-23-2021, 04:32 PM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Mooshashi View Post
          Yes, they are by rail and pipelines to offshore terminals...just not through the US.
          So, and I’m not trying to be argumentative or difficult for the sake of it, didn’t we just shoot ourself in the foot with no benefit? We loose jobs and the oil still gets pulled from the ground. Also looks like the oil gets transported less efficiently so the effect on the environment would actually be slightly negative.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by 4truth View Post
            So, and I’m not trying to be argumentative or difficult for the sake of it, didn’t we just shoot ourself in the foot with no benefit? We loose jobs and the oil still gets pulled from the ground. Also looks like the oil gets transported less efficiently so the effect on the environment would actually be slightly negative.
            We're only losing a few hundred jobs that can easily be refilled..they aren't unique positions.

            Oil and gas government policy is never just based on economics. Certainly it's better to transport oil by pipeline and not by trucks and rail. The way Sierra Club/Friends of the Earth lawyers work is to delay, delay, delay projects till someone give in.

            Marketing of oil is a geopolitical issue. This pipeline was always going to be problematic because of the nature of the oil (extremely environmentally damaging, heavy, difficult to refine) and because it was going through or near Native American lands. So you have two issues that "environmentalists" can grab onto protest against.."we're hurting the planet (true to some extent" and "we're messing around with the Indians". It gave the lawyers something to grab onto in order to delay it and to get it in front of the public.

            Again, I've been in the oil industry for 40 years; I'm no Sierra Club lawyer. Bottom line to me is that the 500,000-850,000 extra barrels of oil on the market would be too much of it at this time. And F@ck the Canadians anyway. And I don't shed any tears over Indians; sorry but that's my opinion. However, the industry sees this as the thin end of the wedge...they have to fight just like the tree huggers do.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4 View Post
              Hey f:ckhead. Hey f:ckhead. Hey f:ckhead. No one has to offer sh:t to your f:ggot ass. Joseph Biden ran his campaign on shutting down the Keystone. Period. It wasn't a secret. R:tard. The majority of U.S. Americans voted for Joseph R. Biden. Game over. Don't like it? 1. Kill yourself. Or, 2. Move out of our country. Or, comedically, do both. No one cares. F:ck you, and yours. We won. F:ck you. The pipeline is going to shut down. In fact, it should be excavated from the Earth and sold for scrap metal. Why? Because it's funny. F:ck you. Win elections. F:ggot.



              R:tard.

              Postscript. 77% of U.S. Americans -- according to Pew Research -- believe it's more important to develop solar and wind energy as opposed to more coal, oil and other fossil fuels. Americans. If you don't like it: move. This is America. Move. We will do what Americans want. Period. Move. And, f:ck you.

              You same imbeciles would be crying about the Pony Express. These automobiles are going to put horseriders out of business! Ford hates the Pony Express! You morons would be against cellular phones. They are going to put payphones and payphone repairman, and beepers out of business. And, against the internet. It's going to put the Lion's Club and mailed newsletters out of business. Pen pals will be out of business. Shut your mouth, r:tards.
              You can literally smell this chicks yeast infection.

              What an emotional woman.

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              • #27
                Canada is a puppet of the American gov, but sometimes they try to act high and mighty.. not a good strategy when trying to appease / make everyone happy.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by B.UTLER View Post
                  Hsksjshshsmsmks
                  You are on fire these days! Good stuff big dawg butler!

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                  • #29
                    I’m trying on different rap names for myself
                    Keystone XL
                    Big pipe boss
                    Yogi Bear boss
                    Ace big tool
                    Home Depot Dawg
                    Big loads
                    Dookie
                    Kwai Chang ******
                    Taco Truck Driver

                    Burrito bandit?

                    Empanada Empire Cato!

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by DeltaSigChi4 View Post
                      Hey f:ckhead. Hey f:ckhead. Hey f:ckhead. No one has to offer sh:t to your f:ggot ass. Joseph Biden ran his campaign on shutting down the Keystone. Period. It wasn't a secret. R:tard. The majority of U.S. Americans voted for Joseph R. Biden. Game over. Don't like it? 1. Kill yourself. Or, 2. Move out of our country. Or, comedically, do both. No one cares. F:ck you, and yours. We won. F:ck you. The pipeline is going to shut down. In fact, it should be excavated from the Earth and sold for scrap metal. Why? Because it's funny. F:ck you. Win elections. F:ggot.



                      R:tard.

                      Postscript. 77% of U.S. Americans -- according to Pew Research -- believe it's more important to develop solar and wind energy as opposed to more coal, oil and other fossil fuels. Americans. If you don't like it: move. This is America. Move. We will do what Americans want. Period. Move. And, f:ck you.

                      You same imbeciles would be crying about the Pony Express. These automobiles are going to put horseriders out of business! Ford hates the Pony Express! You morons would be against cellular phones. They are going to put payphones and payphone repairman, and beepers out of business. And, against the internet. It's going to put the Lion's Club and mailed newsletters out of business. Pen pals will be out of business. Shut your mouth, r:tards.
                      get an absolute grip. u have lost it u complete animal hahahahahahahahaha

                      if u voted for biden knowing he would kill thousands upon thousands of jobs then u are a traitor and a complete dunce. shameful.

                      there is no better alternative to fossil fuels u dunce. it's used everywhere for energy and making products u dunce. u absolute dunce hahahahahahahahaha pathetic. society is extremely heavily reliant on it. take away fossil fuels and society completely collapses into the ground.

                      no amount of windmills and sunlight can replace fossil fuels. get with the frickin program.
                      Last edited by Divine Hammer; 01-23-2021, 09:13 PM.

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