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  • #41
    Originally posted by el*** View Post
    I dont understand how liberals look the other way when muslims throw gays off roof tops.
    Team D often defends Muslims as a group not just ignore these sorts of extreme f#cked up things.

    Lotsa good Muslims out there don't get it twisted, but these days the average Team D person seems more anti-white than anti-muslim which is insanity to me. Lotsa ppl doing effed up sh^t including white folks but killing gay ppl & chopping off body parts is some higher level of f#cked up-ness.

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    • #42
      The bible says you cant eat shellfish, slavery is fine and women cant teach.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
        The New Testament reversed all that.
        "It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

        Absolutely untrue. The New Testament reversed nothing.

        The Council of Jerusalem decreed that Christians didn't have to follow the Laws of Moses (Jewish/Old Testament laws about slavery, property, sacrifice, diet etc), but none of that applies to the personal and moral teachings of the Old Testament.

        So, go ahead and throw out the bacon comment. Unmarried sex is still a sin. Hell, Jesus actually said that looking at a woman lustfully is a sin. Married sex using birth control is a sin. Tattoos are absolutely a sin.

        My point is we're all sinners. Weaponizing the teachings of Christ to say that people who have gay sex or get abortions are more sinful than those who hook up with girls carelessly or get lots of tattoos does not fall in line with the teachings of the bible and Christ. Period.

        Anyone that's telling you otherwise is someone who needs your money or your vote.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
          The sin is to continue in the practicing of something you know God condemns. That's part of repentance and repentance is necessary for approval by GOD.
          True, but does it disqualify you from salvation? I say no. My reading of the Scriptures is that belief in the heart, and confession with the mouth, constitute salvation. I read also that all manner of sin, with the exception of blasphemy of the Spirit, to wit, denial of the Resurrection, after knowledge of the Truth, is forgivable. Finally, I read that Salvation is made by faith, not of works, lest any man should boast.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
            God can't be hurt!
            Take that bullsh**t elsewhere.
            F.ck u, u racist piece of ****. I hope u burn in hell and get butt f.ked by the devil.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
              True, but does it disqualify you from salvation? I say no. My reading of the Scriptures is that belief in the heart, and confession with the mouth, constitute salvation. I read also that all manner of sin, with the exception of blasphemy of the Spirit, to wit, denial of the Resurrection, after knowledge of the Truth, is forgivable. Finally, I read that Salvation is made by faith, not of works, lest any man should boast.
              Ahh. I see where you are coming from. It's the Finished Work of Christ, not the, "Unfinished until I get it all right Work of Christ"

              Here's the thing. We all have strongholds. We have blind spots. We have areas where we are weak and struggle. We fall. We get back up...Some don't "get back up" because they have convinced themselves that their particular sin is 'okay'.

              So, a gay person who doesn't see their behavior as unacceptable to God, who can habitually commit the same sin with NO conviction, no misery, no repentance, is fooling themselves if they believe they are saved.

              The sin of sodomy, for intents and purposes, is not different than my sin of _________ (fill in the blank), as several have mentioned. Am I convicted by the Holy Spirit ? BINGO ! There's the difference, right ?
              So these "gay churches" or "gay" Pastors, I have to question if they are really even saved. Only God knows what's truly in the heart of a man (or woman) , so I'll leave ALL that judgement up to Him. I can however, use a bit of discernment by watching what kind of fruit you bear..... Amen ?
              Last edited by CauliflowerEars; 02-04-2020, 10:50 PM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                All Christians choose to ignore the bits of the bible they don't like.

                Originally posted by KING MEAT View Post
                just bc you like dck doesnt mean you cant have faith
                Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                I think Kendrick said it best:

                Kendrick Lamar, "I am a sinner, thats probably gonna sin again, Lord forgive me, for things I dont understand."

                No Man is perfect, we all sin and God knows this. Faith is what gets you to heaven, not your naughty and nice list. Thats how Santa judges.
                Originally posted by Rip Chudd View Post
                Bro that doesn't mean you go on leading a life of sin
                excellent post ^

                Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
                The sin is to continue in the practicing of something you know God condemns. That's part of repentance and repentance is necessary for approval by GOD.
                this one is good too ^

                Originally posted by Boxfan83 View Post
                All sin is the same. God is nothing but good and does not know sin. Nobody as pure as God can see wrong or even fathom it.

                All Christians are taught or should be taught that when you sin, you hurt God and thats it. And just like anyone in life, if you hurt them enough, they wont let you into their home.
                lol, sin doesn't "hurt God", grieves God would be a better explanation.

                Originally posted by paulf View Post
                You're trying to apply logic to the spiritual, that is not a thing my dude.

                The bible is a collection of different works by followers and disciples of Christ. There were a number different assemblies (Council of Carthage), in the centuries following Christ's death during which works were added and works were removed. There were Christians who believed in reincarnation until it was stricken in during the council of Constantinople.

                Where is it said that God communicated his will to Man for centuries during ancient times, and then one day said "Okay, this is good, finished product, I'm moving to El Paso, ya'll won't hear from me again"???

                Lots of people of various religions with cultural, political, and financial interests would have you believe that so you'll follow them. They weaponize various parts of two-thousand year old texts to advance their agendas.

                If you really think that you can pull out of a girl and cum on her back, but you're a good Christian because you're anti-abortion, good luck with that. How many Christians eat bacon every week without thinking twice about is being sin? How many people get tattoos, guilt free, not caring that that the Lord explicitly forbids it in the bible?

                It's easy to go down this road and it's an incredible waste of time.

                Spirituality is the pursuit of self-truth. It's internal. It has nothing to do with science or facts or the history of the universe. Religion is merely the vehicle to know ones self on the highest level.
                Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
                I feel like most religious ppl haven't read the Bible. I mean parts of it sure. But the whole thing? Nah. Why else would a lot of ppl who do things counter to their religion do them unless they haven't read the book?

                i think this is the best explanation i've seen so far in this thread. i doubt the g@y christian who cums on his boyfriend's back or in his @ss has read much of the bible. lol, i know catholics never read their bibles yet claim to be christians, vatican doctrine contradicts many parts of the bible they claim to believe, or they cancel out the parts they don't like with their "oral" tradition. lol, does this oral tradition have anything to do with what priests have been doing to altar boys for centuries?

                Originally posted by GGG Gloveking View Post
                True, but does it disqualify you from salvation? I say no. My reading of the Scriptures is that belief in the heart, and confession with the mouth, constitute salvation. I read also that all manner of sin, with the exception of blasphemy of the Spirit, to wit, denial of the Resurrection, after knowledge of the Truth, is forgivable. Finally, I read that Salvation is made by faith, not of works, lest any man should boast.
                sin is sin, according to the bible. there is no mention of certain sins, such as spraying semen on someone's back or thighs as being worse than any other sin. basically faith is what gets someone into heaven, but it is not the kind of faith we talk about, where we make a bunch of claims we don't actually follow. God knows who really believes, he can see from their lifestyle. if we claim to believe but live as if we don't that's not faith, it's just hypocrisy. the bible explains we will all be judged by God after our lives are over

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
                  Or else?
                  What's gonna happen to him?
                  If not they can spend eternity separated from the very God they denied. Spoiler alert, it's not very pleasant

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by siablo14 View Post
                    Yo. I always respect your consistency on this matter. When we doing another radio show?
                    Yeah it's been a minute since we did one of those. War Ruiz is supposed to hook it up. Time will be better now as well since I'm back in the states

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post
                      All Christians choose to ignore the bits of the bible they don't like.
                      Yeah pretty much. If you're gay and Christian, you are ignoring that part or explaining it away with other verses.

                      But other Christians ignore parts of the bible too. The bible suggests lots of things are wrong that nobody gives a fck about.

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