10 things you need to know about the Sandra Bland stop

[STREET CLEANER]

Can you explain what crime she has committed to warrant the supposed arrest?

A car stop and she is not following what the cop is asking her. That will get you in jail instead of a summons. Try it one day and get back to me how it goes when a cop does a car stop and you just start challenging him

[~AK49~]

You could argue that he 'indirectly' affected her death. If you don't buy that, then the cops who apprehended Eric Garner definitely played a role in his death. That's my point

Yeah, you never know. But he was certainly within his right to arrest her.

[phallus]

What's wrong with fluoridated water?

Really?

When you accidentally swallow a pea sized flouride toothpaste, it tells you to call poison control center.

There's as much flouride in a 8 oz glass of water as there is in a pea sized toothpaste.

we all have fluoride poisoning anyway in North America. think about this, we shower everyday in fluoridated water, skin absorbs way more water than even drinking does. interestingly European union is removing fluoride from their water supply because its harmful to humans (poisonous) while North America has no plans to do the same. imagine the fear of politicians if fluoride was no longer added to American water, and all those millions of guns owned by American citizens were suddenly turned on them.

In a lot of these cases, had the person cooperated with the police officer's requests/commands, they would still be alive. However having said that, a person's refusal to obey, defiance does not give the cop the right to affect your death.

eric garner cooperated with police but because he was a huge black man he was executed by a gang of cops anyway, for selling illegal cigarettes. the punishment in these cases seems excessive for the "crime" committed.

[boxingsupreme87]

Failure to use a turn signal IS actually an arrestable offense in Texas. He was going to give her a warning, but her attitude caused him to give her the full treatment.

I don't really feel bad for her. She was being a **** and got disciplined. She probably killed herself for the cause.

Which should not have happened. You can be an ******* to a cop during an encounter with them, there is nothing saying you have to be 100% complient.

It's just like those people who excuse black "criminals" for getting shot for "running". Running away isn't something worth getting executed over.

[boxingsupreme87]

Yeah, you never know. But he was certainly within his right to arrest her.

For....not putting out her cigarette when asked (when she had no reason to)?

[Mukuro]

Which should not have happened. You can be an ******* to a cop during an encounter with them, there is nothing saying you have to be 100% complient.

It's just like those people who excuse black "criminals" for getting shot for "running". Running away isn't something worth getting executed over.

Not the same thing at all. Use of lethal force against a fleeing suspect who does not present a danger to the officer or the public is criminal in nature.

What I am talking about is the range of sanctioned actions available to the police offer. The officer has the option to let people off with a warning in minor offenses, and in cases of multiple offenses (very common) they can choose which of them to charge you with (usually with varying degrees of severity). In this situation regarding the failure to signal, the officer had three initial options: let her go with a warning (which he was predisposed to doing), write her a ticket with a fine, and, at least in Texas, arrest her over a minor traffic infraction (very rarely done, I'm only aware of one case personally though there may be others). There is also the option to have her exit the vehicle (also in his power) at his discretion.

It is true that you can be an ******* and there is no crime in that, but you are being an ******* to someone who has certain legal options in his power in how to deal with you. Normally, the officer is more likely to simply write you the ticket and send you on your way in which case being an idiot only costs you some money. She managed to **** with him enough that he used every resource he had as a police officer to **** her right back. Guess what, it isn't really illegal for him to be an ******* either.

[~AK49~]

For....not putting out her cigarette when asked (when she had no reason to)?

For failure to use a turn signal and also for resisting a lawful order (ordering her out of the car is a lawful order, and it was within his right/power to order).

[squealpiggy]

For....not putting out her cigarette when asked (when she had no reason to)?

No. The officer asked her to please put the cigarette out. Her only reason to put it out was because he asked her to. She was entitled to refuse, and the officer was entitled to then instruct her to get out of the car.

interestingly European union is removing fluoride from their water supply because its harmful to humans (poisonous)

No it isn't. That's not the reason, just as the EU placing bans on GMO crops have nothing to do with whether or not they are harmful. They're making laws against such things because European hippies have too much influence over government.

while North America has no plans to do the same. imagine the fear of politicians if fluoride was no longer added to American water, and all those millions of guns owned by American citizens were suddenly turned on them.

Despite the claims of conspiracy theories low doses of flouride do not make human beings more compliant.

eric garner cooperated with police but because he was a huge black man he was executed by a gang of cops anyway, for selling illegal cigarettes. the punishment in these cases seems excessive for the "crime" committed.

Eric Garner resisted arrest. This much is uncontroversial. That's why the claims against the NYPD rested on whether or not an illegal chokehold was used, not whether the use of force was justified in the first place.

Of course the legitimacy of the "broken windows" justification for arresting him for selling single cigarettes is another debate. Under the existing statutes police were entitled to arrest him, using force if necessary.

[squealpiggy]

By the way some of those ten things in the article are dead wrong and if you find yourself believing them uncritically you could get yourself into trouble. For example most US jurisdictions allow the use of a taser to gain compliance. It's a lot safer than using physical force for everyone involved. In most US jurisdictions officers can demand that an individual exit the vehicle in a traffic stop. It's also not incumbent upon a police officer to announce the reason for an arrest before effecting it, though the requirements can vary from state to state.

The director of this civil rights organisation is being pretty irresponsible by recklessly giving out pseudolegal advice, and could end up getting more people hurt as they attempt to assert rights they don't really have.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

No. The officer asked her to please put the cigarette out. Her only reason to put it out was because he asked her to. She was entitled to refuse, and the officer was entitled to then instruct her to get out of the car.



No it isn't. That's not the reason, just as the EU placing bans on GMO crops have nothing to do with whether or not they are harmful. They're making laws against such things because European hippies have too much influence over government.



Despite the claims of conspiracy theories low doses of flouride do not make human beings more compliant.



Eric Garner resisted arrest. This much is uncontroversial. That's why the claims against the NYPD rested on whether or not an illegal chokehold was used, not whether the use of force was justified in the first place.

Of course the legitimacy of the "broken windows" justification for arresting him for selling single cigarettes is another debate. Under the existing statutes police were entitled to arrest him, using force if necessary.

He asked to put out her cig she said why do I have to Im in my car.

Ok get out of the car.



THAT IS A JOKE. Hope the cop dies suddenly.




She asked the racist, cowardly pig 14 TIMES why was she being arrested. He never answered.