Originally posted by siablo14
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We were created for His pleasure, to worship Him. Choice is at the core of worship. If it wasn't, it wouldn't give US or HIM pleasure.
Difficult to accept for anyone, cause it requires submission.
Originally posted by siablo14
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Congrats, you've moved from questioning the existence of God to questioning the way He rules.
If you disagree, what does that prove?
Originally posted by GreatJoe
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Originally posted by siablo14
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"Unless you people see miraculous signs and wonders," Jesus told him, "you will never believe."
John 4:48
His ultimate 'miraculous' sign was called the 'sign of Jonah' which was to rise from the dead.
But people don't even believe in that.
He said: If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.' Luke 16:31
Scripture records Jesus saying if you hear him, it's like hearing God:
Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work." John 14:8
Seeing is NOT believing. There were doubters in Jesus' day that said the same thing.
It required faith EVEN AFTER 'seeing'.
Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." John 20:29
Originally posted by siablo14
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As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead. James 2:25-26
Originally posted by MindBat
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Here let me give you a stupid quicky to add to your library:
"Can God create a Rock big enough for Him to NOT be able to lift? Yes, then He's not God, No, then he's not God"
Stump everyone? Only if you stop researching.
Find a 'clever' question that can't be answered without study, and ease your conscience into comfort.
I've been there.
If I answered your "STUMPING" question, you'd immediately rebut with more. Correct?
What I'm about to say will sound disgusting, typical, presumptuous, etc. It's a lot of the main reasons why people
keep far from Scripture.
If there is a God, then wouldn't all of creation center around Him? Including the nature we're created in?
If we're born 'sinful in nature', wouldn't that require a saviour of some sort? If we're, what's that 'NASTY' word..."redeemed", wouldn't we be THANKFUL enough to worship this GOD?
Might leave a bitter taste in your mouth, I know, but that's because we ALL sit on the throne of our own lives, and believing in these kind of concepts requires something VERY uncomfortable to ANYONE....submission.
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