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  • #41
    normally the older or bigger kid would back down some to work with the younger less experienced kid and not injure him. They should BOTH pull their punches to a degree, so it is a constructive learning experience instead of a slug fest. Sometimes sparring is a 100% full on fight to get ready for an actual bout, but not all the time.

    Either way, if one guy is throwing bombs and cracking the other guy, other guy has every right to come back with equal force.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Eastbound View Post
      normally the older or bigger kid would back down some to work with the younger less experienced kid and not injure him. They should BOTH pull their punches to a degree, so it is a constructive learning experience instead of a slug fest. Sometimes sparring is a 100% full on fight to get ready for an actual bout, but not all the time.

      Either way, if one guy is throwing bombs and cracking the other guy, other guy has every right to come back with equal force.
      My son is going full on but he has just turned 12. The other kid is 17, more expierenced and 10 to 15 kgs heavier.

      it's not on for the 17 year old to go that hard he has either cracked or bruised my sons ribs though.

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      • #43
        With that large of a disparity it size, and strength, your son is going to get beat up and it is virtually impossible to avoid. If the much larger, stronger guy with the more mature body punches back at all, he is going to be going too hard.
        Years ago I saw a guy make his 115 pound son spar a 200 pound southpaw. The big guy did all he could to pull his punches and the smaller, younger guy did 2 rounds looking scared to death and holding back tears.
        The kid finished his pro career a decade ago at 33-5 so maybe it was worth it, but it was horrible to see.
        Find a gym with better sparring options.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by greynotsoold View Post
          With that large of a disparity it size, and strength, your son is going to get beat up and it is virtually impossible to avoid. If the much larger, stronger guy with the more mature body punches back at all, he is going to be going too hard.
          Years ago I saw a guy make his 115 pound son spar a 200 pound southpaw. The big guy did all he could to pull his punches and the smaller, younger guy did 2 rounds looking scared to death and holding back tears.
          The kid finished his pro career a decade ago at 33-5 so maybe it was worth it, but it was horrible to see.
          Find a gym with better sparring options.
          That's what i'm seeing with my son after every sparring session,
          either crying or holding back the tears.

          I have to find another gym. I wouldn't forgive myself if he gets seriously hurt. It looks like he already has a cracked rib. Badly bruised at best.

          It's the coaches attitude that angers me the most. Basically blaming my son for going too hard on the 17 and 18 year olds.

          I don't know about you but i could not imagine smashing a 12 years old ribs when i was 17 or 18.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Usedtobox View Post
            That's what i'm seeing with my son after every sparring session,
            either crying or holding back the tears.

            I have to find another gym. I wouldn't forgive myself if he gets seriously hurt. It looks like he already has a cracked rib. Badly bruised at best.

            It's the coaches attitude that angers me the most. Basically blaming my son for going too hard on the 17 and 18 year olds.

            I don't know about you but i could not imagine smashing a 12 years old ribs when i was 17 or 18.
            Get your son out of that situation. It may be very hard to find another kid his size and age to work with. If you can't find a kid for your boy to work with, keep him out of the ring, no sparring until you find somebody proper to work with. He will only develop the traits of an old journey man, who shows up only for the money and just takes a serious beating each time out. That gym is bullsheet in my opinion, letting those bigger kids beat up on your boy. Get him in the ring only with somebody his age/size. Until then you must work with him to build his skills. It's a tough situation to say the least. But do not put him in the ring with those bigger/older guys until he is ready for it, mentally and physicaly. I wish you luck in finding a proper kid for him to work with....Rockin'

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Usedtobox View Post
              That's what i'm seeing with my son after every sparring session,
              either crying or holding back the tears.

              I have to find another gym. I wouldn't forgive myself if he gets seriously hurt. It looks like he already has a cracked rib. Badly bruised at best.

              It's the coaches attitude that angers me the most. Basically blaming my son for going too hard on the 17 and 18 year olds.

              I don't know about you but i could not imagine smashing a 12 years old ribs when i was 17 or 18.
              The coach shouldn't have let it happen in the first place. That's just too much of a size disparity. The much larger guy can't help but hurt the smaller guy. And of course your son will go hard- he is fighting out of fear.
              Find another gym. You will sleep better and your son will improve faster. He sounds like a young man with a lot of heart.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                Get your son out of that situation. It may be very hard to find another kid his size and age to work with. If you can't find a kid for your boy to work with, keep him out of the ring, no sparring until you find somebody proper to work with. He will only develop the traits of an old journey man, who shows up only for the money and just takes a serious beating each time out. That gym is bullsheet in my opinion, letting those bigger kids beat up on your boy. Get him in the ring only with somebody his age/size. Until then you must work with him to build his skills. It's a tough situation to say the least. But do not put him in the ring with those bigger/older guys until he is ready for it, mentally and physicaly. I wish you luck in finding a proper kid for him to work with....Rockin'
                Great advice, Thank you.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by greynotsoold View Post
                  The coach shouldn't have let it happen in the first place. That's just too much of a size disparity. The much larger guy can't help but hurt the smaller guy. And of course your son will go hard- he is fighting out of fear.
                  Find another gym. You will sleep better and your son will improve faster. He sounds like a young man with a lot of heart.
                  I completly agree, thank you.

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                  • #49
                    I'm far more interested in your training TS, honestly.

                    I also boxed in the army and am still competing. You had better not have hung them up, brother.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
                      Get your son out of that situation. It may be very hard to find another kid his size and age to work with. If you can't find a kid for your boy to work with, keep him out of the ring, no sparring until you find somebody proper to work with. He will only develop the traits of an old journey man, who shows up only for the money and just takes a serious beating each time out. That gym is bullsheet in my opinion, letting those bigger kids beat up on your boy. Get him in the ring only with somebody his age/size. Until then you must work with him to build his skills. It's a tough situation to say the least. But do not put him in the ring with those bigger/older guys until he is ready for it, mentally and physicaly. I wish you luck in finding a proper kid for him to work with....Rockin'
                      I agree with this what Rockin said. Bad situation there and sounds like a change is needed. I spar with my 16yr old boy sometimes but he is 10lbs heavier than me. He gets kinda all excited sometimes and starts to throw some bombs. I think its hard for the younger guys to mentally and physically hold back and pull the punches. 50% intensity can go to 100% percent in a split second.

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