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[hectari]

Nonsense you cycle anything non natural in your body ,not bc its dangerous but bc the body gets used to it . Creatine also stays in your system 2 months when you stop taking it so cycling it would make sensre . Where is your kidney exam you took to suggest Creatine damaged it?

MYTH 1 CREATINE CAUSES KIDNEY AND LIVER DAMAGE
THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS STUDIES CONDUCTED ON CREATINE SUPPLEMENTATION, ALL OF WHICH HAVE CONCLUDED LONG-TERM CREATINE USE DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY NEGATIVE SIDE EFFECTS ON THE LIVER OR KIDNEYS.
Fact: There have been numerous studies conducted on creatine supplementation, all of which have concluded long-term creatine use does not appear to have any negative side effects on the liver or kidneys.

There is no truth to the occasional rogue media stories claiming that creatine causes kidney stones or liver failure. Most of the concerns about the safety of creatine supplementation revolve around how well the kidneys are filtering blood.

Perhaps the confusion comes from elevated levels of creatinine (a marker used to diagnose kidney problems), which occurs following supplementation with creatine. However, this "false positive" is in no way harmful to your body. Moreover, there is no scientific evidence to suggest that chronic supplementation with the recommended creatine dose is detrimental to kidney function.3

Several studies have found no adverse effects of creatine supplementation on how well the kidneys filter blood.4,5 Additionally, there have been hundreds of studies looking at the overall safety of the supplement.

Since I don't expect you to read through every article, here's a quick review of the safety literature:

12 weeks of creatine supplementation has no effect on blood lipid profiles.6
Long-term creatine supplementation does not adversely affect markers of health in athletes.7,8
To date, studies have not found significant changes in renal, hepatic, cardiac, or muscle function with creatine supplementation.9
Okay, I think you get the point. The safety of creatine has been demonstrated over and over again, with some as long as five years.9 Bottom line: Creatine does not cause damage to the liver, kidneys, or any other organ for that matter.

You do realize those studies are done on a small group right? every body reacts differently there is no absolute its why when you read bottles and meds commercials they say you may get interneal bleeding, constipation, gas, etc as warnings.

I went to the doctor this was 2006 I had loaded creatine, and was taking whey only, I started feeling pain in my intestines and on my back. I was taking creatine for 4 months. I was yellow and went to the doctor, he tested me and said I had Creatinine levels or something, I remember Junior Dos Santos had the same issue his kidneys were in pain and he was sluggihs from creatine in a fight.

The doctor said also my digestive system was not responding well and told me it could be the supplements he ssaid I had to go off of all supplements and go on a soup diet, I was in bed for a week before the pains went away. So after a month off all supps, I did what someone on a bodybuilding forum suggested me to do. he said each week add a new supp or vitamin in and you will find which one is causing the pain.

So first I added the Whey, took that for two weeks no issue, after two weeks I added the Creatine, after 4 days the kidney pains in my back came back so I knew it was the creatine and stopped taking it.

There is some concern that it could harm the kidney, liver, or heart function. However, a connection between high doses and these negative effects has not been proven. Creatine can also cause stomach pain, nausea, diarrhea, and muscle cramping. Creatine causes muscles to draw water from the rest of your body.

I had all those side effects from Creatine.

They haven't been proven yet because they havent done enough studies the majority of supps havent been studied or approved by FDA even medicines will have good studies than years later they will have class action law suits, and other studies that contradict those studies and many of these scientific studies are funded by the industry that sells that medicine or supp.

Rely on natural food before supps or chemicals, eat steaks, eggs, chicken, fish, etc.

[hectari]

I can't tell for sure but it sounds here in bold like you take this in supplement form vs just plain old 400 gram $2 grocery store bought variety.

Somebody just sent me this video and it seems in some case studies (this one being Alzheimer reversal) that the supplement form was ineffective however 1 teaspoon of powdered turmeric daily was amazingly effective. Apparently it's the sum of the parts is greater than theory. I just use the $2 powder with a sprinkle of pepper for the piperine to better the absorption of it.

They are both the same, they just put the powder in caps and add pepperine, Turmeric is extremely hard to digest on its own, so you need something that heats up the intestines like pepper or ginger, if you eat turmeric curcummin you usually eat it with ****e foods like chicken where they add ginger and pepper or golden milk they ad cinnamon with a dash of pepper at times.

They have different studies, they have longvida curcumin, bcm95, theracumin, meriva.

One doctor showed a study where the patient took one of those curcurmin types and his tumors shrank after 9 months or something.

[juggernaut666]

You do realize those studies are done on a small group right? every body reacts differently there is no absolute its why when you read bottles and meds commercials they say you may get interneal bleeding, constipation, gas, etc as warnings.

I went to the doctor this was 2006 I had loaded creatine, and was taking whey only, I started feeling pain in my intestines and on my back. I was taking creatine for 4 months. I was yellow and went to the doctor, he tested me and said I had Creatinine levels or something, I remember Junior Dos Santos had the same issue his kidneys were in pain and he was sluggihs from creatine in a fight.

The doctor said also my digestive system was not responding well and told me it could be the supplements he ssaid I had to go off of all supplements and go on a soup diet, I was in bed for a week before the pains went away. So after a month off all supps, I did what someone on a bodybuilding forum suggested me to do. he said each week add a new supp or vitamin in and you will find which one is causing the pain.

So first I added the Whey, took that for two weeks no issue, after two weeks I added the Creatine, after 4 days the kidney pains in my back came back so I knew it was the creatine and stopped taking it.


I had all those side effects from Creatine.

They haven't been proven yet because they havent done enough studies the majority of supps havent been studied or approved by FDA even medicines will have good studies than years later they will have class action law suits, and other studies that contradict those studies and many of these scientific studies are funded by the industry that sells that medicine or supp.

Rely on natural food before supps or chemicals, eat steaks, eggs, chicken, fish, etc.

That is by product of creatine ...the FDA would never approve of creatine the same as they want to take healthy vitamins off the store shelves but failed in the last few years . Creatine isnot dangerous .store vitamins are however bc they are synthetic and are generally poison if not ground grown .....

Creatine does not turn into creatinine once its absorbed by the body, however it can turn into creatinine if it stays in a liquid for long enough. And most of those downsides like cramps, headaches, etc. come from not taking in enough water while using creatine. I recommended that you take in at LEAST 1 gallon of water per day while on creatine. , but creatinine is a useless toxic compound but taking creatine wont really trigger large amounts of creatinine in your body anyway. Ive been on creatine half my life i know what im talking about .

so you are telling me in 20 years no long term Creatine studies have been done ?

1.* Does Creatine Cause Dehydration?

This is a very common question, but unfortunately it seems that the most popular answer is incorrect. *Most people will tell you, almost as though it’s common knowledge, that creatine causes dehydration. *However, several studies are showing that this is not necessarily the case.

Dr. Michael Webster, at the University of Southern Mississippi, performed a study to determine the effects of creatine. *16 men performed interval workouts, followed by 75 minutes of continuous exercise, designed to facilitate loss of body water. *The group was split and supplemented with either creatine monohydrate or a placebo. *At the end of the study, the researchers found that, “creatine supplementation does not appear to negatively impact hydration status.”

2 additional studies performed at Arkansas State University, which we will get into later, also concluded that creatine does not incite dehydration. *Furthermore, the International Society of Sports Nutrition lists “cramping, dehydration and/or altered electrolyte status” as one of the most common myths purported about creatine supplementation.

Despite the prevailing evidence, many people will read this with skepticism, and adhere to popular opinion. *But, even if you believe that creatine does cause dehydration, does the theory make sense?


2. *Does Dehydration Cause Muscle Cramps?

The second premise to consider is that dehydration causes muscle cramps. *As we blogged about 2 weeks ago, the likely answer is “No.” *Study after study has shown that there is no correlation between hydration or electrolyte levels and muscle cramps. *In fact, one landmark study performed by Dr. Martin Schwellnus actually showed that ultra marathon runners who cramped were actually more-hydrated than those who did not cramp.

*Again, the prevailing science says “No.” *First, let’s go back to the 2 studies mentioned above, which were led by Dr. Michael Greenwood, at Arkansas State University.* In the first study, Division IA football players were split into 2 groups and supplemented either with or without creatine for 3 seasons, from 1998-2000. *Throughout the study, researchers tracked the players for cramps, dehydration, muscle tightness, muscle strains, non-contact joint injuries, contact injuries, and illness. *At the end of the study, the researchers concluded that, “Creatine supplementation does not appear to increase the incidence of injury or cramping in Division IA college football players.”While this research was being conducted, an additional study was performed on 72 of the football players during the 1999 season. *38 participants volunteered to take creatine, while the remaining 34 participants did not. *All 72 subjects were tracked for the same maladies as above. *In this study, researchers found that creatine users had significantly less cramping, heat illness or dehydration, muscle tightness, muscle strains, and total injuries than non-creatine users. *There was no significant difference in non-contact joint injuries, contact injuries, or illness.

Dr. Greenwood did not limit his studies to football players. *In November, 2003, he published a similar study relating to baseball players in the Journal of Exercise Physiology. *The entire study can be downloaded here, but what’s important are the conclusions that his research team came to: *

Results of the present study indicated that creatine use among Division I baseball players training and competing in very hot and humid environments does not appear to increase the incidence of dehydration, cramping, and/or muscle injury in comparison to athletes who do not take creatine. **Moreover, that the athletes’ did not report a consistent pattern of perceived negative side effects as a result of the creatine supplementation protocol. *Within the scope of this study, these findings add to the growing body of evidence indicating that creatine supplementation apparently does not increase the incidence of anecdotally reported detrimental side effects and/or cause unknown health problems.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Are you drinking simpleton?

A placebo is a simulated or otherwise medically ineffectual treatment for a disease or other ..... The placebo effect in this perspective arises when false information about medications misleads the health management system

And below....as a reminder when you want to compare looks!

ME






YOU..... that which resembles the below!Anyone who saw you before you deleted your failed bag work will know this...lmao


HI IM MR. DAGOWOP

You do realize that you don't look the least bit physically intimidating. If anyone looks like a skinny "spaghetti armed" guy it is definitely you from the picture you provided.

[juggernaut666]

You do realize that you don't look the least bit physically intimidating. If anyone looks like a skinny "spaghetti armed" guy it is definitely you from the picture you provided.

Dago dope (GUMBY) you are in the wrong section ..... you are lost this isnt the lounge ,this is for ppl with actual knowledge of important topics . Not skinny kids with NO experience ,you cant have an opinion or point out facts if you dont have the actual experience on the subject matter that stuff is for the lounge where you belong ! My Forearms are bigger than your neck which if i remember correctly resembles that of a giraffe !

" Right now, my weight is 125 and I can't go lower or else I feel really tired and sick. I'm 5'10" btw. " Dago dope (GUMBY) 2016


"I've been boxing (1.5 years) so I like to think I know what I'm doing." Dago dope (GUMBY) 2016...Moms garage maybe ..this idiot didnt even know if water is good for you while working out either up until a year ago but knows it all now from reading articles and guess work ?

[Rip Chudd]

Pretty good thread. Just commenting so I can find it easy when I get home

[Furn]

Well it's fair to say science has died a horrible death in this thread.

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Dago dope (GUMBY) you are in the wrong section ..... you are lost this isnt the lounge ,this is for ppl with actual knowledge of important topics . Not skinny kids with NO experience ,you cant have an opinion or point out facts if you dont have the actual experience on the subject matter that stuff is for the lounge where you belong ! My Forearms are bigger than your neck which if i remember correctly resembles that of a giraffe !

" Right now, my weight is 125 and I can't go lower or else I feel really tired and sick. I'm 5'10" btw. " Dago dope (GUMBY) 2016


"I've been boxing (1.5 years) so I like to think I know what I'm doing." Dago dope (GUMBY) 2016...Moms garage maybe ..this idiot didnt even know if water is good for you while working out either up until a year ago but knows it all now from reading articles and guess work ?

"I suck **** for a living" Juggernaut666 (lard ass)

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Dago dope (GUMBY) you are in the wrong section ..... you are lost this isnt the lounge ,this is for ppl with actual knowledge of important topics . Not skinny kids with NO experience ,you cant have an opinion or point out facts if you dont have the actual experience on the subject matter that stuff is for the lounge where you belong !

Then why are you on here?

[Mr.MojoRisin']

Dago dope (GUMBY) you are in the wrong section ..... you are lost this isnt the lounge ,this is for ppl with actual knowledge of important topics . Not skinny kids with NO experience ,you cant have an opinion or point out facts if you dont have the actual experience on the subject matter that stuff is for the lounge where you belong ! My Forearms are bigger than your neck which if i remember correctly resembles that of a giraffe !

" Right now, my weight is 125 and I can't go lower or else I feel really tired and sick. I'm 5'10" btw. " Dago dope (GUMBY) 2016


"I've been boxing (1.5 years) so I like to think I know what I'm doing." Dago dope (GUMBY) 2016...Moms garage maybe ..this idiot didnt even know if water is good for you while working out either up until a year ago but knows it all now from reading articles and guess work ?

The only logical solution for why you make such falacious accusations (except for me being 125lbs, I was 125 but I bulked up to 140. Guess in your universe people have to stay the same weight forever) is that you suffer from SDS. Small **** Syndrome. That is why every single thread you are on turns into a pissing contest, you are the prototypical middle schooler.