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  • #21
    Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
    do you want to hear the good news or the bad news?
    i just want your honest opinion bro i dont care

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
      do you want to hear the good news or the bad news?
      20 bouts? If you have not been ko'd yet than that would be the good news.

      The bad news is that you throw your shots and then leave your melon sitting on the fence post just begging to be shot to the ground. No head movement what so ever. No feints, no counters, no avoiding shots, no rythme, etc. Just throw some shots out (I couldn't really see if you were turning them over, but it looked like you weren't) as rapidly as you can and then you just stand there waiting to get hit with your head just sitting there. No boxing, just ill thrown punches and a stationary melon.

      You are finishing the rotation of your hips too soon and negating your power by stopping that rotation with both your hooks and right hands. At least finish your shots man. With your hook you start out ok but you are cutting your hip rotation too soon leaving you basically finishing the shot with only your arm pushing through. Same thing with your right hands, you are cutting the rotation leaving you pushing the shots.

      Your jab is weak. Yeah, you're fast with them but there is nothing behind it. Yours was the type of jab that I wouldn't mind letting touch me for the wide open opportunity of bringing my right hand over the weak jab to collide with your jaw.

      Your right hands are firing off nicely with no 'tell', but the rest of the shot is garbage. Keeping that right elbow tight to your body will not only help your right hands but will also be well served in protecting your rib cage.

      If you've had 20 bouts you either had the crappiest coach in the world or you've forgotten every thing that you might have been taught.

      you get a D for at least showing some effort. I didn't see one proper shot thrown during the video. Quality before quantity...........
      Last edited by Rockin'; 05-24-2015, 09:06 AM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
        20 bouts? If you have not been ko'd yet than that would be the good news.

        The bad news is that you throw your shots and then leave your melon sitting on the fence post just begging to be shot to the ground. No head movement what so ever. No feints, no counters, no avoiding shots, no rythme, etc. Just throw some shots out (I couldn't really see if you were turning them over, but it looked like you weren't) as rapidly as you can and then you just stand there waiting to get hit with your head just sitting there. No boxing, just ill thrown punches and a stationary melon.

        You are finishing the rotation of your hips too soon and negating your power by stopping that rotation with both your hooks and right hands. At least finish your shots man. With your hook you start out ok but you are cutting your hip rotation too soon leaving you basically finishing the shot with only your arm pushing through. Same thing with your right hands, you are cutting the rotation leaving you pushing the shots.

        Your jab is weak. Yeah, you're fast with them but there is nothing behind it. Yours was the type of jab that I wouldn't mind letting touch me for the wide open opportunity of bringing my right hand over the weak jab to collide with your jaw.

        Your right hands are firing off nicely with no 'tell', but the rest of the shot is garbage. Keeping that right elbow tight to your body will not only help your right hands but will also be well served in protecting your rib cage.

        If you've had 20 bouts you either had the crappiest coach in the world or you've forgotten every thing that you might have been taught.

        you get a D for at least showing some effort.
        Okay, thanks for giving it to me straight.

        Well okay firstly yeah that was just throwing some shots out, your right, i should have been properly moving my head and keeping it in tighter. I guess i was just trying to be a bit flashy and should have put more substance in.

        Your also correct i wasn't turning over properly, trying a bit too hard to be faster than what i am.

        But as for the getting KOd thing, you're wrong there my man. Ive given away up to 10-15lbs in fights and never once been stopped. I have a tight high guard when i fight. Ive boxed a guy who went on to the olympics, and didn't get knocked out.

        My coach was a good coach. his fighters have won state titles and i won a couple myself. granted its not the scene like you guys have over in the states but its still something.

        Anyway I'm not disheartened by your critique. Ill take it on board. But i know I'm at least a solid boxer.
        Last edited by Suckmedry; 05-24-2015, 09:15 AM.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by GuessWhosBack View Post
          Okay, thanks for giving it to me straight.

          Well okay firstly yeah that was just throwing some shots out, your right, i should have been properly moving my head and keeping it in tighter. I guess i was just trying to be a bit flashy and should have put more substance in.

          Your also correct i wasn't turning over properly, trying a bit too hard to be faster than what i am.

          But as for the getting KOd thing, you're wrong there my man. Ive given away up to 10-15lbs in fights and never once been stopped. I have a tight high guard when i fight. Ive boxed a guy who went on to the olympics, and didn't get knocked out.

          My coach was a good coach. his fighters have won state titles and i won a couple myself. granted its not the scene like you guys have over in the states but its still something.

          Anyway I'm not disheartened by your critique. Ill take it on board. But i know I'm at least a solid boxer.
          You would not last long in Detroit boxing as you did in the video.

          You may have sparred 20-30 times but I find it hard to believe that you've had 20 bouts.

          "I'm at least a solid boxer." If compared to a cavemen I would agree.

          20 bouts, no way. If you were truthful in your experience the critique would have been much different. With the experience that you spoke of you should just know better.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
            You would not last long in Detroit boxing as you did in the video.

            You may have sparred 20-30 times but I find it hard to believe that you've had 20 bouts.

            "I'm at least a solid boxer." If compared to a cavemen I would agree.

            20 bouts, no way. If you were truthful in your experience the critique would have been much different. With the experience that you spoke of you should just know better.
            Uh huh. Well firstly why would I lie, and second, you're just being a rude **** now, and Can fcuk off. Your own boxing career failed so your a bitter prick. There was no need for you to bring insults into it. Your a fkn loser man

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            • #26
              Originally posted by GuessWhosBack View Post
              Uh huh. Well firstly why would I lie, and second, you're just being a rude **** now, and Can fcuk off. Your own boxing career failed so your a bitter prick. There was no need for you to bring insults into it. Your a fkn loser man
              It's all good. You asked for it straight out and that's what I gave you. Make another video but throw like you mean it this time. And close those open hands in to fists and then turn those fists over

              20 bouts? I call it like I see it. So unless you were holding back in your first video show me something that's above the playground scraps.

              Let me guess, I have "disheartened" you?
              Last edited by Rockin'; 05-24-2015, 01:43 PM.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by GuessWhosBack View Post
                https://********/Z7HwLed8suY

                heres a short vid of me shadowboxing, just some basic combos sort of forgot to really show a bit of everything. recorded a better one just after that had my feet in it too so ill try get that one up. my internet connection is shocking so it took forever to upload and i couldn't try uploading a big video.
                I only go from my own experience, no textbook responses from me. So hopefully I can help you out.

                The #1 thing I love about what you got is your stance. It's ****ing solid bro. Your legs are in short, perfect. The positioning, you're light on your feet, I can tell you know how to go in and out, whether it's a conscious thing or not. You have the ability to go in and out with ease.

                The thing I don't like, is your mind. I can tell you're too worried about the combinations you are throwing. It's just shadow boxing but in my own opinion or how I do it, personally, shadowbox like how you would fight.

                Instead of trying to throw 3-4 punches, multiple jabs, needless combinations. Shadowbox like how you would fight. A person won't stand there and let you throw 3 short jabs and then a wound up right. Right? Throw a prodding jab, extend your arm to gauge distance, retreat with the full or half step back, act like someone threw a feint, so you gotta shift back or move your head and also think like, "*****, it looks like he is gonna throw. Let me stop-hit/ intercept." so you throw that little jab-parry and retreat from punching range. All that you know?

                So get loose, move your head, not necessarily to dodge but so your opponent can't simply think, "his head is still, I'm gonna punch."

                Even moving your head 1-2 inches side to side, prevents an opponent from setting up anything or throwing anything with confidence. (unless they have a high ring IQ. That ***** doesn't work against me, I'd just jab the body.. but that's a different story. lol)

                You're guard is good. A little tense. You'll feel it dude. I promise you. When you start sparring again (if you haven't already) your shoulders are going to BURN. Because you seem tense. Whether it's conscious or not, you got your shoulders tight. Your hands are loose and you breath with your punch but your arms are tight, not relaxed or held in the guard naturally.

                Just relax. Shadow boxing is like, whatever, to me. I don't shadow box conventionally, i focus on my footwork and jab mostly. You wouldn't see much combinations from me if you ever saw me shadow box. Very few non-purposeful punches from me when shadow boxing.

                Overall dude. You're solid atm. To be just getting back into it, you got a good foundation. Everything I didn't like is just getting back into the flow. Once you relax and don't focus so much on what your hands are gonna do. You'll be straight.

                As for weight class. What is your weight currently? Because you look like you could go to 140-154 if you wanted. You look like a WW to me.


                I even watched the vid again after writing this. Dude, leg position on point. I still love it. If it makes me smile, you're likely doing it right.

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                • #28
                  Tl;dr?
                  • Your leg positioning is on point. Beautiful.
                  • You think too much about what your hands are gonna do.
                  • Your arms/shoulders are tense. Whether conscious or not. Your arms are gonna be on fire when you start sparring again.
                  • Relax more. Shadow boxing isn't so much about throwing absent minded punches as it is imitating a fight.
                  • No one is gonna let you hit them 4x with 3 jabs and a right. So throw 1-2 punches, slip. Parry jab. Shift. Or just flat out retreat (half step, full step) and recover. That's effective shadow boxing. IMO



                  I mean, everyone shadow boxes different. Pacquiao shadow boxes like an idiot, in my opinion, but it's like how he fights. Volume of punches even if they 4 of 7 have no true purpose other than to maybe land.

                  Basically, just do it how you would fight. All the best boxers, every part of their training, is like how they fight. No activity they do is for nothing.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by F l i c k e r View Post
                    Tl;dr?
                    • Your leg positioning is on point. Beautiful.
                    • You think too much about what your hands are gonna do.
                    • Your arms/shoulders are tense. Whether conscious or not. Your arms are gonna be on fire when you start sparring again.
                    • Relax more. Shadow boxing isn't so much about throwing absent minded punches as it is imitating a fight.
                    • No one is gonna let you hit them 4x with 3 jabs and a right. So throw 1-2 punches, slip. Parry jab. Shift. Or just flat out retreat (half step, full step) and recover. That's effective shadow boxing. IMO



                    I mean, everyone shadow boxes different. Pacquiao shadow boxes like an idiot, in my opinion, but it's like how he fights. Volume of punches even if they 4 of 7 have no true purpose other than to maybe land.

                    Basically, just do it how you would fight. All the best boxers, every part of their training, is like how they fight. No activity they do is for nothing.
                    any 20 bout amateur should already know all of this.

                    Show his video to 10 people who know what they are looking at and 9 of them would proclaim fraud.

                    the guy has had some training, but 20 bouts worth? No way. That is not the work of an open class boxer.
                    Last edited by Rockin'; 05-24-2015, 02:23 PM.

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                    • #30
                      That's true, a 20 fight amateur should know that.

                      Idk though, I just give people the benefit of a doubt. Cause I can't say they didn't do something or did. Only they know what they really did or didn't. Over the net that is.

                      That's just me though ya know?

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