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  • #11
    Man u guys are telling peopele to eat as if they wanted to be 300lbs. Eat that way and u will look like the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man. I recommend going to bodybuilding.com and viewing some fitness experts articles. Unless u want to be an absolute mass monster, do not do anything of this excessive training or eating.

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    • #12
      If your bulking up for boxing I would not recommend it.

      Boxing muscles are about endurance, not pure power.

      Once you see how much harder the guys are hitting in the class or 2 above you, you will wish that you had reconsidered bulking up.

      Rockin'

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Rockin1
        If your bulking up for boxing I would not recommend it.

        Boxing muscles are about endurance, not pure power.

        Once you see how much harder the guys are hitting in the class or 2 above you, you will wish that you had reconsidered bulking up.

        Rockin'
        C'mon man everything done in boxing is about.....Nevamind

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        • #14
          Originally posted by opethdrums
          lift heavy, lots of volume

          eat a ****load of carbs (potatos and ****, rice) and protein (bacon cheeseburgers, steaks, fried chicken) and drink a lot of liquids.. be full all the time. drink protein shakes with some whole milk with your meals or whenever youre too lazy to make meals

          this will make you more strong than big if you have trouble gaining weight. but you'll be so strong you won't care about being big anymore
          ok yeah granted some of those things have alot of protein but thats also how u make ***** ****. You want foods with high protein and low fat like chicken,steak,FISH,beans

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Rockin1
            If your bulking up for boxing I would not recommend it.

            Boxing muscles are about endurance, not pure power.

            Once you see how much harder the guys are hitting in the class or 2 above you, you will wish that you had reconsidered bulking up.

            Rockin'
            Sorry I have to say this, boxing requires various components of fitness like any other sport, the only difference is what components are emphasized. Boxing like any other sports requires pure power, power is force generation in shortest unit of time. More power development quicker force generation, in other words u get faster and stronger. Boxing is a power sport, that has a strong endurance component. But u can never call a sport that has a rest interval during competiotion and endurance sport.

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            • #16
              You need endurance and power in boxing but the most important reason you should not bulk up is that it will just bump you into a higher weight class where you will fight taller, naturally harder hitting opponents.

              You should try to minimize your bodyweight and fight as low as you can while remaining healthy. If you are fully grown and have a welterweight's skeleton, that will never change regardless of what kind of weight training you do. You can put on 80 pounds of pure muscle and fight the heavyweights at 5'7" 220 lbs (at 6% bodyfat) but your little skull just won't be able to take their punches.

              Obviously that was an extreme example, but even the jump from welter to middle is pretty significant.

              Lifting for strength I have no problem with but the idea of bulking up for boxing is ridiculous, unless you are a natural heavyweight already.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                You need endurance and power in boxing but the most important reason you should not bulk up is that it will just bump you into a higher weight class where you will fight taller, naturally harder hitting opponents.

                You should try to minimize your bodyweight and fight as low as you can while remaining healthy. If you are fully grown and have a welterweight's skeleton, that will never change regardless of what kind of weight training you do. You can put on 80 pounds of pure muscle and fight the heavyweights at 5'7" 220 lbs (at 6% bodyfat) but your little skull just won't be able to take their punches.

                Obviously that was an extreme example, but even the jump from welter to middle is pretty significant.

                Lifting for strength I have no problem with but the idea of bulking up for boxing is ridiculous, unless you are a natural heavyweight already.
                I agree with u whole heartedly about weight classes in boxing. But I did not agree with rockin's own theory of physics. No disrespect rockin, but your statement about power wasn't factual. Ability to take a punch is genetic. There are heavyweight contenders right now that don't take a punch very well. Not to mention the thousands of heavyweights who's sole flaw in the division is inabillity to take a heavyweight punch, and they are natural heavyweights. The main problem with moving up a weight class is impairing of your neverous systems ability to play back motor functions and skill. Which in turn actually makes you weaker because u lose some ability to perform sports skills properly. Most athletes once they reach adulthood will maintain the same phyique throughout their intire career. Because of this they only work on improving their skill within the functionality of their nervous system. If after 10 years of being 175lbs as a pro, or semi-pro athlete then in your non-competitive or offseason decide to pack on 25lbs, you would have to retrain your nervous system to properly play-back critical sports specific motor function critical to sports performance. Not to mention never having faced elite level athletes at that higher weight class. For these reasons I also would not recommend movign up to many weight classes, one or two might work but after that you are pushing your luck.
                Last edited by BigDozer260; 12-06-2005, 10:11 PM.

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                • #18
                  hey bigdozer, are u sayin dat if u gain 2 much weight u cant control ur body as well as u did at a light weight? if so, how cum holyfield coped with it well?

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pugnacious_Z
                    hey bigdozer, are u sayin dat if u gain 2 much weight u cant control ur body as well as u did at a light weight? if so, how cum holyfield coped with it well?
                    He worked with the leading sports conditioning specialist in the countryat that time, Dr. Freddrick C. Hattfield, therefore understanding neurological and physiological adaptations, they prescribed a scientific training regimine that promoted a smooth transition from cruiser to heavy.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BigDozer260
                      Eat adequate calories to fuel energy expenditure, all the protein in the world doesn't make up for inadequate calorie consumption. Watch our for transfatty acids and saturated fats, sodium and sugar intake. Protein in only about a gram for every 2.2 lbs of bodyweight(u only need to nourish lean body mass not total body mass). Weight train 3-4 times a week, do cardio training 3-5 times a week 20-30 min. Stretch after workouts, not before(before can actually lead to soft tissue injury and prohibit musclular force). Stretch about 3-5 days a week holding each stretch between 10-30 seconds(don't bounce or overstretch as this leads too injury as well just statically hold the movement). Periodize, if u don't know u betta ask somebody or just research. You are not my client so I won't prescribe a routine, but this is the guidelines for improved general strength and muscle size.
                      Can you explain this a bit more please? I've read that stretching is not effective in improving sporting performance.

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