weight training in boxing

[Spartacus Sully]

I still can't fathom how anyone can say having developed fast twitch fibres is bad for boxing.

the guys above me would have you believe im telling you fast twitch fibers are bad when really im saying that too great a ratio of fast twitch fibers is bad.

Troll.

you just mad that i called you out on exactly what you are doing 2 pages ago.

a punch is powered by fast twitch fibers, the accueracy, distance, timing and speed thats all slow twitch.

you can have a powerful punch with just fast twitch, but its going to be slow, your going to have problems with accurecy, and proper distance, along with timing.

you can have all fast twitch leg muscles for your powerful punch but your going to have problems with proper foot work.

you can have all fast twitch muscles in your arms but our going to be slow at blocking.

your body can be pure fast twitch muscles but your going to have ****ty endurance, a lower lactate threshold, and a lower vo2 max.

[Spartacus Sully]

[Spartacus Sully]

[DaveJH]

All more solidly built than long distance runners. The bottom line is development of fast twitch fibres through strength training is beneficial to a boxer provided conditioning is not neglected. You mention lactic threshold which is a component of the lactic energy system which deals with IIa fibres (fast twitch!).

Feel free to focus on your slow twitch fibres, have fun having most opponents you face walk through your shots.

[Spartacus Sully]

All more solidly built than long distance runners. The bottom line is development of fast twitch fibres through strength training is beneficial to a boxer provided conditioning is not neglected. You mention lactic threshold which is a component of the lactic energy system which deals with IIa fibres (fast twitch!).

Feel free to focus on your slow twitch fibres, have fun having most opponents you face walk through your shots.

Strength Training? remember when i said this 2 pages ago?

i think your getting hung up on generalized terms like strength training and weight.

what kind of strength training? that maximal strength? endurance strength? speed strength? explosive strength?

Troll!!!!

yes type 2 fibers create lactate acid, guess how the lactate acid is removed?

http://www.delano.k12.mn.us/high-sch...ut-lactic-acid

8. The heart, slow-twitch muscle fibers, and breathing muscles prefer lactate as a fuel during exercise.
In the heart, for example, the uptake of lactate increases many fold as the intensity of exercise increases while uptake of glucose remains unchanged. These tissues suck up lactate at a fast rate to satisfy their energy needs.

Type I, slow oxidative, slow twitch, or "red" muscle is dense with capillaries and is rich in mitochondria and myoglobin, giving the muscle tissue its characteristic red color. It can carry more oxygen and sustain aerobic activity.

The heart, liver and red blood cells will also consume lactic acid produced and excreted by skeletal muscles during exercise.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle

The heart, brain and most slow twitch fibres are very apt at clearing lactate from the blood to the extent that they prefer lactate as a source of fuel (27,28,29). Note however, that lactate must first be converted into pyruvate before it can be used as a source of energy.

http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/lactic-acid.html

Aerobic Capacity
Given that high levels of lactate/hydrogen ions will be detrimental to performance, one of the key reasons for endurance training is to enable the body to perform at a greater pace with a minimal amount of lactate. This can be done by long steady runs, which will develop the aerobic capacity by means of capillarisation (formation of more small blood vessels, thus enhancing oxygen transport to the muscles) and by creating greater efficiency in the heart and lungs. If the aerobic capacity is greater, it means there will be more oxygen available to the working muscles and this should delay the onset of lactic acid at a given work intensity.

http://www.brianmac.co.uk/lactic.htm

[DaveJH]

That's lactic acid as a waste product of aerobic exercise.

The lactic acid system is described as follows:

The lactic acid or anaerobic glycolysis system converts glycogen to glucose. Then, with enzymes, glucose is broken down anaerobically to produce lactic acid; this process creates enough energy to reform ATP molecules, but due to the detrimental effects of lactic acid and H+ ions building up and causing the pH of the blood to become more acidic, this system cannot be relied on for extended periods.

Thus, the higher the lactic threshold, the longer this system can be used for.

You're an idiot, and i'm frankly tired of discussing this with you.

Marathon runners are light, compare the physique of a marathon runner with the physique of featherweight Yuriorkis Gamboa.


Despite probably being the same weight, the contrast in their physiques is vast. This is due to Yuriorkis Gamboa's development of his fast twitch fibres.

If you somehow say Yuriorkis Gamboa is out of shape, or a 'bad boxer' due to his fast twitch fibres then seriously, please just turn your computer off and stop posting.

[dctopboots01]

Strength Training? remember when i said this 2 pages ago?



yes type 2 fibers create lactate acid, guess how the lactate acid is removed?

http://www.delano.k12.mn.us/high-sch...ut-lactic-acid





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle



http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/lactic-acid.html



http://www.brianmac.co.uk/lactic.htm

Here's a fact...former Heavyweight champ Jack Johnson used to perform one arm chin ups for 6 reps and press-ups with a partner on his back for about 4-5 reps. He also did hanstand press-ups for 5-7 reps. Whats the difference between a low rep handstand press-up and overhead dumbbell press? Nothing...it's all strength training.

[DaveJH]

Here's a fact...former Heavyweight champ Jack Johnson used to perform one arm chin ups for 6 reps and press-ups with a partner on his back for about 4-5 reps. He also did hanstand press-ups for 5-7 reps. Whats the difference between a low rep handstand press-up and overhead dumbbell press? Nothing...it's all strength training.

I'm glad someone sees sense.

[Spartacus Sully]

That's lactic acid as a waste product of aerobic exercise.

The lactic acid system is described as follows:

The lactic acid or anaerobic glycolysis system converts glycogen to glucose. Then, with enzymes, glucose is broken down anaerobically to produce lactic acid; this process creates enough energy to reform ATP molecules, but due to the detrimental effects of lactic acid and H+ ions building up and causing the pH of the blood to become more acidic, this system cannot be relied on for extended periods.

Thus, the higher the lactic threshold, the longer this system can be used for.

You're an idiot, and i'm frankly tired of discussing this with you.

Marathon runners are light, compare the physique of a marathon runner with the physique of featherweight Yuriorkis Gamboa.


Despite probably being the same weight, the contrast in their physiques is vast. This is due to Yuriorkis Gamboa's development of his fast twitch fibres.

If you somehow say Yuriorkis Gamboa is out of shape, or a 'bad boxer' due to his fast twitch fibres then seriously, please just turn your computer off and stop posting.

first off as discussed above and posted mutiple sources, your latic threshold is entierly dependent on your aerobic ability. the fast twitch fibers create lactate acid that acid is then metabolized by red blood cells, the heart, liver, lungs and most slow twitch muscles.

thus the greater your aerobic capabilities and the more slow twith muscles you have the greater your lactate threshold will be because you can metabolize the lactic acid more quickly.

secondly for the third time

the guys above me would have you believe im telling you fast twitch fibers are bad when really im saying that too great a ratio of fast twitch fibers is bad.

troll

[DaveJH]

Here's a fact...former Heavyweight champ Jack Johnson used to perform one arm chin ups for 6 reps and press-ups with a partner on his back for about 4-5 reps. He also did hanstand press-ups for 5-7 reps. Whats the difference between a low rep handstand press-up and overhead dumbbell press? Nothing...it's all strength training.

first off as discussed above and posted mutiple sources, your latic threshold is entierly dependent on your aerobic ability. the fast twitch fibers create lactate acid that acid is then metabolized by red blood cells, the heart, liver, lungs and most slow twitch muscles.

thus the greater your aerobic capabilities and the more slow twith muscles you have the greater your lactate threshold will be because you can metabolize the lactic acid more quickly.

secondly for the third time



troll

I've just watched your bag videos. Say no more. I'm not one to mock the afflicted, have a good day.