Skinny Boxer ... What do I need

[questionare]

dont force yourself to gain weight, thats the dumbest thing a boxer can do by far.

ppl have diffrent genes, some are just naturally thin. adding weight will make u less of a fighter, just learn how to fight tall and use it as an advantage. dont train for the mirror or the scales, train for ability. stamina, speed and strenght in that order. some ppl end up looking like tyson others like chico corrales, but thats your best fighting weight regardless of how u look in the mirror. bulking up will only get u ktfo, u look better skinny with your arm raised than ripped on a stretcher.

Thanks #1Assassin for your feedback. However, I am not really trying to bulkup, however, I am trying to add strength... and to eat more, in order not to loose muscles... since I have lost around 14 lbs during the last month, due to my bad apetit... What I am trying is to hit 185 lbs... and try to stay at that weight... If I find that weight is not helping me... I believe I can easily get back to 170

[josh-hill]

tbh man sounds like we are trying to do the same thing. ive just started and am trying to bulk up to fix a shoulder instability. if you want to put on muscle maybe a supp like creatine but i dont know much about it. if you just want stregnth you probably wont put on much weight at all. make sure you are getting plently of protein. protein shakes might be a good idea as they usuraly have ~250 cals too. as for a weight lifting program. thats where i am falling down too. just not sure what to do. have you been weight lifting before in those 6 day/week workouts? cus if i where you i would have an extra rest day. even people that just lift weights can usuraly only manage 3 full body workouts a week and thats with unlimited recovery time. if you are training for boxing in between it will be much harder too. good luck

[questionare]

tbh man sounds like we are trying to do the same thing. ive just started and am trying to bulk up to fix a shoulder instability. if you want to put on muscle maybe a supp like creatine but i dont know much about it. if you just want stregnth you probably wont put on much weight at all. make sure you are getting plently of protein. protein shakes might be a good idea as they usuraly have ~250 cals too. as for a weight lifting program. thats where i am falling down too. just not sure what to do. have you been weight lifting before in those 6 day/week workouts? cus if i where you i would have an extra rest day. even people that just lift weights can usuraly only manage 3 full body workouts a week and thats with unlimited recovery time. if you are training for boxing in between it will be much harder too. good luck

Really what I am trying is to add both muscles and strength, but I don't want to be huge, however, to be fit. I am planning to take protein shakes, since I don't eat that much, so I will take them as one or two meals replacement.

I haven't been lifting weights during my 6 days workouts, since I feel it boring... but I will force myself for 2 days weight lifting... and I get used to do workout for 6 days a week

[St Lunatic]

I have the same problem with gaining weight. SO far I have really good luck with the Pro Complex gainer. I have tried a lot of gainers and that one seems to do the best with lean gaining. the multivitamin advice is something to look into too. I take GNC's and it seems to work for me.

[questionare]

I have the same problem with gaining weight. SO far I have really good luck with the Pro Complex gainer. I have tried a lot of gainers and that one seems to do the best with lean gaining. the multivitamin advice is something to look into too. I take GNC's and it seems to work for me.

Thanks for the feedback; however, can you please inform me about the deit you were using? also, how much weight you were able to gain... I was thinking to substitute the procomplex gainer with Whey protein, and add Oats, peanut butter, honey to the whey protein, as this will increase the carbs amount... and will be cheaper...

[St Lunatic]

Thanks for the feedback; however, can you please inform me about the deit you were using? also, how much weight you were able to gain... I was thinking to substitute the procomplex gainer with Whey protein, and add Oats, peanut butter, honey to the whey protein, as this will increase the carbs amount... and will be cheaper...

Alright here it goes.....

To start with this is the workout plan I followed and still follow now:
Day 1 - Chest, Legs, Triceps
Day 2 - Boxing workout
Day 3 - Back, Biceps, and Shoulders
Day 4 - Boxing workout
Day 5 - Off
--- and repeat ---
(I can give you a detail of what I exactly do on those days if your interested)

The Diet
Most important - MULTIVITAMIN
-Like I said GNC makes a good one and so does ON
I started out using Whey, and like you said, added extras. I felt that the whey helped me stay lean and really helped with recovery. After about a year I started taking ON Pro Complex gainer. I liked this option a lot better because it helped bulk up, but it was lean. I have tried many weight gainers and many of them put weight on but it was hard to stay as cut as i wanted to be. Make sure you eat a good breakfast. Try having eggs and maybe oatmeal in the morning.
I have to stop and ask you a question: Are you planning on getting serious with boxing (like having fights), or are you doing it for the workout?
For me I do boxing just for the workout but I spar every once in awhile. I'm sure there is a lot of people saying that lifting weights and all this other stuff about weight training will do you no benefit in boxing. I have had very good luck with mass building while being a good all around boxer. I think it all depends on how serious you want to be. For me I do boxing for fun; I dont plan on making it a career. So I do believe you can have a good mass building plan that will help you with boxing goals as well.

Anyways, I have tried things from Ross Training to just focusing on boxing to heavy lifting, and so far I have created a program that I am able to gain mass with having only a beneficial effect on my boxing workout.

Eat a lot, but eat clean and youll start gaining mass. Sometimes we are so skinny that our testosterone or HGH levels are low. We just have to adjust our workout and eating habits to raise these levels (without pro hormones or boosters of course)

[questionare]

Alright here it goes.....

To start with this is the workout plan I followed and still follow now:
Day 1 - Chest, Legs, Triceps
Day 2 - Boxing workout
Day 3 - Back, Biceps, and Shoulders
Day 4 - Boxing workout
Day 5 - Off
--- and repeat ---
(I can give you a detail of what I exactly do on those days if your interested)

The Diet
Most important - MULTIVITAMIN
-Like I said GNC makes a good one and so does ON
I started out using Whey, and like you said, added extras. I felt that the whey helped me stay lean and really helped with recovery. After about a year I started taking ON Pro Complex gainer. I liked this option a lot better because it helped bulk up, but it was lean. I have tried many weight gainers and many of them put weight on but it was hard to stay as cut as i wanted to be. Make sure you eat a good breakfast. Try having eggs and maybe oatmeal in the morning.
I have to stop and ask you a question: Are you planning on getting serious with boxing (like having fights), or are you doing it for the workout?
For me I do boxing just for the workout but I spar every once in awhile. I'm sure there is a lot of people saying that lifting weights and all this other stuff about weight training will do you no benefit in boxing. I have had very good luck with mass building while being a good all around boxer. I think it all depends on how serious you want to be. For me I do boxing for fun; I dont plan on making it a career. So I do believe you can have a good mass building plan that will help you with boxing goals as well.

Anyways, I have tried things from Ross Training to just focusing on boxing to heavy lifting, and so far I have created a program that I am able to gain mass with having only a beneficial effect on my boxing workout.

Eat a lot, but eat clean and youll start gaining mass. Sometimes we are so skinny that our testosterone or HGH levels are low. We just have to adjust our workout and eating habits to raise these levels (without pro hormones or boosters of course)

Thank you very much for the detailed feedback...
Really am like you, not interested in making career through boxing, however, I like the workouts which give me strength and fitness... So I believe weight lifting won't harm me alot... but also, I don't want to be a big guy...

So you advice me to take Pro Complex Gainer, instead of having the whey and adding extras to it?

Also, I am planning to have ON Opti-Men MultiVit, what do you think?

I will be thankful if you can give me the details of your weight lifting workouts, I was planning to follow the workouts specified in the below article:

hxxp://zzz.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/intermediate-boxing-mma-workout.html
[Replace xx with tt, zzz with www]

Thanks again for your contribution...

[Righthandbanger]

Thanks Othello for the reply... I will take your advice, and will do full body workout... and am plaining to have 4 sets x 7-12 reps to gain muscles, and afterwards it will be 4 sets x 15-20 reps for endurance... Also, I am plaining to have a day for bulgarian bag strength training and make my boxing workout to 3 days....

I will repost my results after one month... and hopefully it will be good results

Thanks again for your advice....

I think this is wrong.

1) 5x5 is a better workout program for building strength, and as a result for building muscle that actually does something

2) you shouldn't sacrifice skill training and conditioning for strength training. Although strength is important, it is the least important of these three things so 2 5x5 full body workouts a week should be enough.. make it fit instead of replacing things

[Spartacus Sully]

id go with low weights high reps like hundreds to thousands. just a ncie 2 lb iron weight that you can use for shadow boxing along with other leg core chest arm neck and bck exercises.

the goal of course to get blood in the muscle and keep it there for long periods of time brining the muscle back to life creating new veins forcing your heart and lungs to evolve and adapt to the increase in needed blood as well as increasing the conductivity of the muscle thus more efficeinly using the energy from the nerves as steam in a locomotive and in turn empowering you with great nervous force and not just muscular force.

heavy weights strain your muscles poping blood veins and damaging the muscle and it fibers ......setting the structure of the entre muscle as an organ down a path of destruction.

while the low weights increase the blood flow and bring life back to the muslce while over the period of a few weeks adding inches to the muscle of not just muscle but blood and veins and nerves and increasing the oxygen out put of your lungs and intake of oxygen to the muscle.

of course if you want to be a **** boxer who spends all his time straining his muscles with weights and can never go 100% shadow boxing or hitting the bag in fear of injuring an allready damaged muscle go right ahead.

[St Lunatic]

Thank you very much for the detailed feedback...
Really am like you, not interested in making career through boxing, however, I like the workouts which give me strength and fitness... So I believe weight lifting won't harm me alot... but also, I don't want to be a big guy...

So you advice me to take Pro Complex Gainer, instead of having the whey and adding extras to it?

Also, I am planning to have ON Opti-Men MultiVit, what do you think?

I will be thankful if you can give me the details of your weight lifting workouts, I was planning to follow the workouts specified in the below article:

hxxp://zzz.muscleandstrength.com/workouts/intermediate-boxing-mma-workout.html
[Replace xx with tt, zzz with www]

Thanks again for your contribution...

No problem man, I'm here to help.

Yes, I would try taking the Pro Complex Gainer instead of the whey. Especially if youre like me, your body will just eat through the whey and you will have very slow results. I am really sensitive to acne too, and Pro Complex gainer didnt give me any acne either. - Just thought I throw that FYI in.

I personally have never tried the ON multivitamin. If you try that one, for sure let me know how it goes, I was thinking of getting it myself.

Heres is a sample of my workout:
Day 1 - Flat Bench press
Cable Skull Crushers
Dips
Incline Dumbell Flyes
Leg Press
Leg Extension

Day 2 - Shadow Boxing
Pullups
Pushups
Heavy Bag
Double End bag
Speed Bag
Abs

Day 3 - Preacher Curls
Romanian Deadlift
Shoulder Press
Side Raises
Reverse Grip Curls
Cable Row
Hammer Curls

Day 4 - Same as Day 2

Day 5 - OFF


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