Skinny Boxer ... What do I need

[TheTruthIs]

you're not helping your case by trying to discredit Ross Emanait. It's well known he is one of the foremost authorities on building fight strength and conditioning for boxing.

and lol @ the bagwork challenge.

[Spartacus Sully]

you're not helping your case by trying to discredit Ross Emanait. It's well known he is one of the foremost authorities on building fight strength and conditioning for boxing.

and lol @ the bagwork challenge.

so whats his boxing record? he got any bag vids up or sparring?

can any one even cite where he recommends doing 5*5 sets for boxing conditioning?

[Spartacus Sully]

http://www.Rossboxing.com
Strength is strength and boxers are notoriously clueless about strength training.

Many critics of strength training for fighters do not understand the numerous strength qualities that exist. Strength is commonly described as the ability to exert a force against a resistance. This simple definition is not enough however. We must instead examine more specific strength qualities.

Maximal Strength - Maximal strength is defined as the amount of force that one can exert under voluntary effort. Max-strength is developed by lifting heavy loads, or through bodyweight methods such as isometrics and the use of strenuous rep-for-rep movements.

Explosive Strength - Explosive strength is defined as the ability to express significant tension in minimal time.

Vladimir Zatsiorsky, highly regarded sport biomechanist and former strength and conditioning consultant for the Soviet Union Olympic teams, has stated specifically that:

"The ability to produce maximal forces in minimal time is called explosive strength. Strong people do not necessarily possess explosive strength." (1)

Clearly, the development of one strength quality (ex. max-strength) does not guarantee the development of another (ex. explosive strength). This information may come as a surprise to many athletes who focus all of their strength work to one specific strength quality (ex. the athlete who only lifts heavy loads to development maximal strength).

Explosive strength is a critical strength quality for all competitive athletes.

Speed Strength - Speed strength is defined as the ability to quickly execute an unloaded movement or a movement against a relatively small external resistance. For example, working with a punch-out drill against the heavy bag would equate to the execution of a relatively small external resistance, as the weight of the glove is insignificant.

For more information regarding punch-out drills, please refer to the link below:

Intensifying The Heavy Bag

Speed strength is also very important for fighters. Unfortunately, many athletes train improperly, hence sacrifice this strength quality. For example, world-renowned sport scientist Yuri Verkhoshansky and colleagues established that:

"Excessive maximum strength training can impair speed-strength and technical skill in boxers." (2)

Strength Endurance - Strength endurance is defined as the ability to effectively maintain muscular functioning under work conditions of long duration. Strength endurance is a vital strength quality for any combat athlete. Power and speed are useless without the stamina necessary to apply these physical attributes throughout the contest.

And contrary to the opinion of many, free weights can be effectively used to enhance a fighter's endurance. For example, this routine offers a high-speed conditioning challenge, ideal for any combat athlete.

As stated earlier (but worth repeating), the development of one strength quality does not ensure the development of another. Distinct strength properties are often unrelated. One can possess tremendous strength in one form (ex. max-strength), while lacking in other areas (ex. speed-strength).

The lesson to be learned is very simple. Don't put all of your eggs into one basket. A complete athlete must follow a complete plan. Each strength quality must be considered in the creation of the program.

http://www.rosstraining.com/articles/strengthtraining.html

Many critics of strength training for fighters do not understand the numerous strength qualities that exist

apparently its not just the critics that don't understand the numerous strength qualities that exist either.

[sandysandara]

ppl have diffrent genes, some are just naturally thin. adding weight will make u less of a fighter, just learn how to fight tall and use it as an advantage. dont train for the mirror or the scales, train for ability. stamina, speed and strenght in that order. some ppl end up looking like tyson others like chico corrales, but thats your best fighting weight regardless of how u look in the mirror. bulking up will only get u ktfo, u look better skinny with your arm raised than ripped on a stretcher.

[sandysandara]

heavy weights strain your muscles poping blood veins and damaging the muscle and it fibers ......setting the structure of the entre muscle as an organ down a path of destruction.

[Righthandbanger]

ross emant? so whats his pro record how many title defenses does he have? has he even boxed amature?

box judo mma and muay thai

ohhh so you do mma, you really shouldnt be giving any adive to some one that wants to box as you dont just box and you have no idea how something soely effects your boxing but instead only how it effects your mma and what is good for mma is often times very bad for boxing.

why dont you throw up a few rounds on the bag and ill throw up a few rounds and we can let the forum decied who hits harder and knows more about training for boxing strength, as well as speed endurance and skill?

say like 2 rounds with 16's on then maybe a round shadow with 16's then another round shadow with no gloves? all done straight through with the 1 min breaks between each round recorded.

LOL. Actually my focus at the moment is boxing, MMA is a hobby of mine at this moment in time.

..oh and LOL at the challenge. That helps your point in the same way as ********* helps you pee

[Spartacus Sully]

LOL. Actually my focus at the moment is boxing, MMA is a hobby of mine at this moment in time.

..oh and LOL at the challenge. That helps your point in the same way as ********* helps you pee

so then when can i expect the video?

how about this friday?

this is me a year ago. i mean i cant have improved that much in a year that you cant make a video better then me on the bag.



hell 9 of those months i was teaching my self and ive only started to go to a boxing gym since late july.

just let me know when you got the 2 rounds on the bag (with 16's) 1 round shadow (with 16's) and 1 round shadow (no gloves) and what the hell lets throw in another round on the bag with 16's to not only accentuate the levels of stamina but also to display the power remaining after 4 hard rounds. (with the 1 min breaks recorded of course)

so yeah just let me know when you got that up on you tube, and ill throw mine up and either you or me can make a thread with a poll and the vids.

Ive allready got a few i can put up

[TheTruthIs]

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[Spartacus Sully]

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Yeah i dont think the guy has to balls to put up a video either.

even more so i dont think he has the stamina to last 5 rounds.

[Righthandbanger]

Im really not going to put a video up.. What you are doing is starting a 'challenge' because you have run out of evidence to support your argument.

drop the strawman and admit you're wrong