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  • Righthandbanger
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    #21
    Originally posted by Ruby Robert
    id go with low weights high reps like hundreds to thousands. just a ncie 2 lb iron weight that you can use for shadow boxing along with other leg core chest arm neck and bck exercises.

    the goal of course to get blood in the muscle and keep it there for long periods of time brining the muscle back to life creating new veins forcing your heart and lungs to evolve and adapt to the increase in needed blood as well as increasing the conductivity of the muscle thus more efficeinly using the energy from the nerves as steam in a locomotive and in turn empowering you with great nervous force and not just muscular force.

    heavy weights strain your muscles poping blood veins and damaging the muscle and it fibers ......setting the structure of the entre muscle as an organ down a path of destruction.

    while the low weights increase the blood flow and bring life back to the muslce while over the period of a few weeks adding inches to the muscle of not just muscle but blood and veins and nerves and increasing the oxygen out put of your lungs and intake of oxygen to the muscle.

    of course if you want to be a **** boxer who spends all his time straining his muscles with weights and can never go 100% shadow boxing or hitting the bag in fear of injuring an allready damaged muscle go right ahead.
    This is such a fallacy.

    Everything I have seen you type on the subject of weights is just ludicrous.. please stop posting.

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    • bobfoster
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      #22
      you could always smoke pot

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      • Spartacus Sully
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        #23
        Originally posted by Righthandbanger
        This is such a fallacy.

        Everything I have seen you type on the subject of weights is just ludicrous.. please stop posting.
        For muscle-hardening exercise, there is nothing better than the dumb-bell — only it must be a very small dumb-bell — not a very large one, as of old. The best size is an iron, two-pound dumb-bell. This is the size with which the strongest men exercise nowadays.

        It is admitted, at last, that the object of exercise is not to strain but to strengthen. Heavy dumb-bells strain ; light ones strengthen.

        " The effects of exercise," says an English medical authority on training, " are twofold : on the one hand a stimulus is given to the action of the heart and lungs, which enables the blood to be more thoroughly oxygenated and more rapidly circulated ; on the other hand, there is an expenditure of force accompanying the increased activity of the organic changes. Exercise strengthens the parts exercised, because it increases the nutrition of those parts. When any organ or muscle is inactive, the circulation in it becomes less and less; the smaller net-work of its blood-vessels are empty or but half filled; the streams gradually run in fewer channels, and the organ, ceasing to be thoroughly nourished, wastes away. When the organ is active all its vessels are filled; all the vital changes, on which depend its growth and power, proceed rapidly. The force expended is renewed, unless the expenditure has been excessive, in which case there is a disturbance of the mechanism, and depression, or disease, results.

        The advantage of exercise to a student, politician, or any other brain-worker, is that it lessens the over-stimulus of his brain, distributes the blood more equally, calling to his muscles some of those streams which would impetuously be rushing through his brain."

        In other words, exercise with the anus, legs, or trunk, relieves the congested brain as surely, and, of course, far more healthfully than bleeding.

        To return to the need and superiority of the light over the heavy dumb-bell : exercise with the latter is necessarily brief. The single heavy dumb-bell can be lifted from four to twenty times, say, according to its weight. The whole body is violently strained for the brief effort. Quite often, if the lifting be not carefully graduated in weight, the in-rushing blood bursts some of the finer net-work of the vessels, or the delicate covering of the muscles is rudely torn, and the would-be athlete is an invalid for life.

        The one-pound or two-pound dumb-bell strains nothing : it only adds to the swing of the hands. The exercise can be varied so as to develop upper and lower limbs and trunk. It is particularly adapted to those who are not trained athletes. Say, the arms are thin and weak and soft, and you want to increase their size, strength, and firmness. There are only a few regular motions for this, and they can be learned in a minute. The hands, grasping the dumbbells, are hanging by the sides: begin by raising them, lending the elbow and touching the front of the shoulder with the ball of the thumb ; down again, and up again : that is all. You repeat this motion twenty times, thirty, on to fifty or sixty before you are tired.

        Then stop, — always stop any exercise when it tires you : this is nature's advice.

        But begin in a minute or so, and go over it again. You will probably this time reach seventy. Then change the motion : extend the arms like a cross, on a level with the shoulders, and double in from the elbow, alternately, just touching the tips of the shoulders with the hands. Keep this up till you are tired, and then go back to the first motion.

        In a week you will be able to raise the hands in the first motion hundreds of times, in a few weeks a thousand times.

        This means — what ? It means that you keep the muscles of the arms working actively for from a quarter of an hour to an hour; that the lately dried-up blood-vessels are now full of warm blood, feeding the hot muscles as a trench full of water feeds a famished field. It means also that the girth of the arm is one, two, or more inches larger than it was a few weeks ago ; that the flesh is firm and solid; and that arm, shoulder, and hand are so strong that there is a new pleasure even in swinging an umbrella or shaking hands With an old friend. '
        http://books.google.com/books?id=l1E...put=text#c_top

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        • Righthandbanger
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          #24
          LOL, here is the biography of the author


          he was not a personal trainer or qualified to make these assertions.

          Try reading 'Science and Practice of Strength Training'


          or Practical Programming


          and again.. please stop posting

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          • dannnnn
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            #25
            That book was published in 1888... times have changed.

            Things like strength training, nutrition and boxing in general have all moved on and vastly improved since those days.

            Like Righthand****er said, for the benefit of this forum, please stop posting.

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            • Spartacus Sully
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              #26
              Originally posted by Righthandbanger
              and these people dont seem to be the kind of people to make boxing related assertions nor do they even try to id imagine while i mention a book that more then likely helped teach some of the greats of the earlier 1900-1920's like jim jeffries jack dempsey joe gans bob fitzsimmons as well as full of tactics that the greats of the 1890's were already using, a book that perhaps even sugar ray robinson might have picked up as a kid, a book that id bet money on bruce lee having owned, a book about boxing, i mean we are talking about boxing right? not how to get strong fast.

              as the book says the best thing you can do for boxing is boxing the second best thing you can do for boxing is running.

              if you sacrifice enough of your time to those two things you can go anywhere.

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              • Righthandbanger
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                #27
                You site an unreliable source and then provide 'facts' when most contemporary sources disagree with you.

                You don't know what you are preaching. Bow out. Do yourself a favour.

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                • Spartacus Sully
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Righthandbanger
                  You site an unreliable source and then provide 'facts' when most contemporary sources disagree with you.

                  You don't know what you are preaching. Bow out. Do yourself a favour.
                  so you plan to provide modern time boxing sources that disagree with me or just more personal training books from people who have never throw a punch at a heavy bag in their life?

                  really you dont know what your preaching and seem to be just parroting some person fitness trainer you know or have read about but that dosnt give me the right to be an ass hole twords you and tell you to stop posting while not providing one single credible boxing related argument (as you have done).

                  do you even box? cause if you do i bet your incredibly crappy at it.

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                  • Righthandbanger
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                    #29
                    http://www.Rossboxing.com
                    You can't discredit my sources because they aren't boxing based. Strength is strength and boxers are notoriously clueless about strength training.

                    And yes I do box. I also do judo, MMA and Muay Thai

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                    • Spartacus Sully
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Righthandbanger
                      http://www.Rossboxing.com
                      You can't discredit my sources because they aren't boxing based. Strength is strength and boxers are notoriously clueless about strength training.

                      And yes I do box. I also do judo, MMA and Muay Thai
                      ross emant? so whats his pro record how many title defenses does he have? has he even boxed amature?

                      box judo mma and muay thai

                      ohhh so you do mma, you really shouldnt be giving any adive to some one that wants to box as you dont just box and you have no idea how something soely effects your boxing but instead only how it effects your mma and what is good for mma is often times very bad for boxing.

                      why dont you throw up a few rounds on the bag and ill throw up a few rounds and we can let the forum decied who hits harder and knows more about training for boxing strength, as well as speed endurance and skill?

                      say like 2 rounds with 16's on then maybe a round shadow with 16's then another round shadow with no gloves? all done straight through with the 1 min breaks between each round recorded.
                      Last edited by Spartacus Sully; 09-17-2010, 05:49 AM.

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