animosity at a new gym

[TheNegation]

I work at a cross-fit.

Cool.

I don't think everything is liable to fighting though. Though most of it is pretty functional.

I think a lot of it is.

I think it was Rich Franklin I saw, his workout was 15 minutes of jogging on a treadmill, the rest was weights. They tried to hype it up with heavy metal music but man it almost made me puke.

Well his routine is crap. I'll even admit that. I think he had the idea of no rest periods, but he was doing all ****ty exercises that afforded no relevance or functionality whatsoever.

That's what I mean by extensive weight routines. I also hate when people say "forget about long runs just do short sprints". More like, "I hate running so i'll just sprint" Reality? you need both. Hard work.

I agree. Both are required. Everything needs to be done in balance.

If you are a professional boxer/fighter, you need to put in at least 10km each morning + sprints. Thats the ground work of your training. Running in general increases your stamina. If you are a runner though and you start boxing/fighting, your gonna need to let your body adapt to the quicker pace.

Proffessional means it's your job. you got all the time in the the world to do this.

not a little quick 15 min treadmill warmup.

No arguments.

nobody in the UFC can work like Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather. nobody, GSP doesn't even come close. The stamina those guys posses is outstanding.

You can say the same about guys like Leonard and Hagler in their primes.

Now I don't agree with this. A guy like GSP and a guy like Pacquiao are in spectacular condition, but they aren't doing the same routines. I wouldn't expect either of them to be able to do each others workouts.

The point remains that they are elite athletes. But excel in different areas.

[them_apples]

Cool.



I think a lot of it is.



Well his routine is crap. I'll even admit that. I think he had the idea of no rest periods, but he was doing all ****ty exercises that afforded no relevance or functionality whatsoever.





I agree. Both are required. Everything needs to be done in balance.




No arguments.




Now I don't agree with this. A guy like GSP and a guy like Pacquiao are in spectacular condition, but they aren't doing the same routines. I wouldn't expect either of them to be able to do each others workouts.

The point remains that they are elite athletes. But excel in different areas.

well i look at it this way. Anything GSP does I could see myself doing if i worked at it. Some of the stuff Pacquiao is doing, only he and a select few could ever do.

doing 20 rounds on the hand pads at full power and full speed and not even wanting to stop(not to mention only taking 30 second breaks in between)? part of that is genetics. Most good boxers can't even do that without gassing a bit.

GSP does a lot of crossfit, so I know where he's coming from. He's in superb shape, but I don't marvel at it. There are top crossfitters who can do what he does. I've never met anyone who can do what Pacquiao does. His workout routine is absurd. He runs 10km in the heat on various elevations, then runs 3km up hill afterwards. That's just his roadwork.

The last tourni I went to (crossfit tourni) the top guy scored for "fran" at about 2 minutes 30 seconds (roughly). Some people have done it quicker though. My guess is that's what GSP would pull off.

I see what you are saying about training specifics though. GSP is most likely a much stronger person when it comes down to it, and Pacquiao is most certainly the quicker and more agile of the 2.

[Spartacus Sully]

That's what I mean by extensive weight routines. I also hate when people say "forget about long runs just do short sprints". More like, "I hate running so i'll just sprint" Reality? you need both. Hard work.

If you are a professional boxer/fighter, you need to put in at least 10km each morning + sprints. Thats the ground work of your training. Running in general increases your stamina. If you are a runner though and you start boxing/fighting, your gonna need to let your body adapt to the quicker pace.

but its not just sprints/running. its the make up of the whole routine. like say some one doing jump squats for 1 min then push ups for a min then sit ups for a min then jump rope for a min then hit a tire for a min then rest for a min and do the whole thing over again 5 times totaling 25 mins.

sure that kind of work out is good but just as you need long runs you need the 30 min ab routine or the 30 min leg routine or the 30 mins working foot work on the jumprope, ever hit a tire with a sledge for 30 mins i take my pick axe and dig out stumps the hard way till i cant hold on the pick axe any more 3 times a week and its alot diffrent then just going all out for a min.

[Fearless]

I wouldn't volunteer the info though, only tell them if they ask you what you've done before or you'll sound like a goof who wants insta-rep

I agree with this.

I also agree with the humble attitude, you are there to learn, not to boast about how you can whoop ass, no one gives a ****, and people in a way get nervous about that kind of **** and want to probably whoop your ass instead.

I train in Muay Thai, I've also been to a boxing gym to train, I overhear them telling stories about how some guy walked in the gym thinking he's hot shot and wanted to spar straight away only to get his ass handled. My current gym/trainer at MT also was talking about how some kids ask him "How long will it take?" And the trainer didn't know what the **** they were on about because most of the kids want to fight. Apparently a lot of kids jump straight into MMA thinking they can do some UFC **** (I never seen these people myself, but I heard), I had a go at MMA once just to see how to class was like, but the trainer wasn't there so the students trained themselves, two of the slightly experienced guys recommend that I go learn BJJ as well because MMA classes are very watered down. And I agree with that... though I never went on to learn BJJ because I don't really enjoy it as much as both boxing and MT.

Anyways, I'm going off topic, the point is, just go in any Martial Arts gym with a respectful attitude. Its like that with anything, you don't go to a new work place thinking you're hot **** because you know your stuff.

[them_apples]

but its not just sprints/running. its the make up of the whole routine. like say some one doing jump squats for 1 min then push ups for a min then sit ups for a min then jump rope for a min then hit a tire for a min then rest for a min and do the whole thing over again 5 times totaling 25 mins.

sure that kind of work out is good but just as you need long runs you need the 30 min ab routine or the 30 min leg routine or the 30 mins working foot work on the jumprope, ever hit a tire with a sledge for 30 mins i take my pick axe and dig out stumps the hard way till i cant hold on the pick axe any more 3 times a week and its alot diffrent then just going all out for a min.

Thats what I'm saying. These routines obviously aren't working. So many of them are slow and have poor stamina. I really hate ragging on my man GSP since he's from Canada, but nothing he does to me is "incredible". His stamina is average and his speed is below average when compared to a top boxer.

You compare the athleticism of Floyd Mayweather to GSP and it's like night and day.

[Del Coqui]

Animosity coz you practice MMA? That's ****** bro. I mean if its too bad, go to a rich boy LA Boxing gym or Hollywood gyms. I dont think you should have any problems thou.

[La_Vibora]

I personally make it a point to really take it to the guy if I find out that he does MMA.

[TheNegation]

I personally make it a point to really take it to the guy if I find out that he does MMA.

Oooh. A tough guy.

[Righthandbanger]

Bad attitude. If he's game then its no problem but beating on someone who isnt used to going at it just with their fists is a **** move. especially seeing as they are resisting the urge to take you down and choke you the **** out.

[AddiX]

Honestly, at most real boxing gyms they wont give 2 ****s if you have an MMA background.

The mma/boxing **** is more of a forum thing. Fighters and trainers really don't talk about it often.

The one thing I will tell you though is that your first time sparring you better show heart no matter what. This has nothing to do with being MMA back ground, that's just how boxing is. If your new to boxing, or a vet, it don't matter. Your fresh meat once you lace the gloves up.

But really, don't worry about the MMA/kickboxing stuff, i can honestly say no one will care. Just make sure that first time in the ring you bring it.