Using boxing to defend yourself

[Chip2006uk]

Surely throwing first is the best way to land yourself in Jail? Especially if they know you train in boxing.

Ive always told myself that if I ever get into a fight on the street let the other guy throw the first punch, that way you can say it was self defence

[Gavin1]

Lads, if you ever are forced to punch someone for self-defence reasons, what part of the head should you aim for to minimise potential injuries to your hand or wrist? Fractured my Scaphoid last year and don't wanna go through all that again, and there's been a few times in nightclubs when it looked something was gonna kick off but thanfully it blew over (Never started any of them, don't even drink), but when the adrenaline kicks in your body's gonna do whats its been trained to do and in my case thats punch someone in the head lol. So if the the **** does hit the fan where should I go for, I know not the forehead becase its the thickest part of the skull.

[UND]

i talked to a copper and he said it doesnt mean anything if you box its only a sport, it only matters if ur a pro. u can hit some1 fist if ur in fear of them hitting you.

[fabie]

It helps...but it is very obvious that the streets meant no rules. Meaning grappling, scratching, head butts, biting, throwing rocks, stabbing, hair pulling, slaps...name it.

Boxing is only one of the attributes/skills we can use but oftentimes it isn't enough.

I've taken Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's Art), Kali/Escrima/arnis (Stick, knife, Stick and Knife, that is supposedly translate to Sword and dagger)...in a street fight, all ranges of a fight are the possibilities, meaning for a no weapons, one of one fight, they are:

• Kicking Range
• Boxing Range
• Grappling Range

So here we are discussing the boxing range. But we still have to consider the massive possibilities other than the usual "boxing" that we know in the ring. That is the shell but we have to tweak it even more.

In the sport of boxing, the general:

• usage of the JAB to establish range
• then the CROSS to at least complete the 1-2
• then add all the shorts (hooks and uppercuts) in different combos
• footworks and defense

But in the street fight, the JAB has to be different. One can easily do a take down on a jabber and grapple with him with a football tackle-take down. And thus, this "middle range" in a street fight is only very phasic.

Meaning one has to contend the KICK first and foremost as the longest range. And then, the boxing range. This middle of the range can easily close in very fast and even be "deleted" and move on towards the ground/grappling range.

And thus in the sport of boxing, one doesn't need to worry about being taken down via grapple. We don't care about "balance" because we can always clinch and the referree can break it up for us.

In a street fight, the "clinch" is just a start of a fight. How are you going "box" in that range? Call for a referree? hahahahhaha

You see, this would all make us think. Thus the MMA fighters have a fairly and relatively more "realistic" grasp of a street fight than a boxer. Sure we can still use some of the skills and attributes but again...the wrestler can easily dodge and take a hit as long as he would put us down on the ground.

Then it's lights out if one doesn't know how to grapple.

In JKD, the "jab" can take on the three ranges mentioned above....

• Kicking Range - Usage of "Jeet" (interceptions) via kicking the knees/shins with a sharp quasi-side kick to prevent your opponent from lunging at you. Or a front snap kick to his front thighs....anything to stop his momentum towards you.

• Boxing Range - Obviously the left or right jab. But it has to be tweaked. Balance is optimum instead of just a fast jab. The key is "fast" release and "fast" retraction of the hand/arm jabbing and going back to the on-guard position while the feet maintaining a distance to bounce backwards, sideways or attack again.

• Grappling Range - The "jab" here is the "guard"...how to maintain distance while being relaxed to be able to reverse positions.

And be able to go from the Kicking Range to Grappling Range and vice versa in a safe transition.

That is the reality of a street fight.

[fabie]

Surely throwing first is the best way to land yourself in Jail? Especially if they know you train in boxing.

Ive always told myself that if I ever get into a fight on the street let the other guy throw the first punch, that way you can say it was self defence

But if it was MIKEY TYSON in his prime and got you with a strongest punch then..... there's nothing to defend.

[bbos]

I never use my precious hands in a street fight, thats just ******, I jab and hook with a knife in my left hand and throw the straight right with a knife in the right hand. speed and explosiveness is key, this is for self defense only, because its quite dangerous and can land you in jail.

[oaklandstephen]

It helps...but it is very obvious that the streets meant no rules. Meaning grappling, scratching, head butts, biting, throwing rocks, stabbing, hair pulling, slaps...name it.

Boxing is only one of the attributes/skills we can use but oftentimes it isn't enough.

I've taken Jeet Kune Do (Bruce Lee's Art), Kali/Escrima/arnis (Stick, knife, Stick and Knife, that is supposedly translate to Sword and dagger)...in a street fight, all ranges of a fight are the possibilities, meaning for a no weapons, one of one fight, they are:

• Kicking Range
• Boxing Range
• Grappling Range

So here we are discussing the boxing range. But we still have to consider the massive possibilities other than the usual "boxing" that we know in the ring. That is the shell but we have to tweak it even more.

In the sport of boxing, the general:

• usage of the JAB to establish range
• then the CROSS to at least complete the 1-2
• then add all the shorts (hooks and uppercuts) in different combos
• footworks and defense

But in the street fight, the JAB has to be different. One can easily do a take down on a jabber and grapple with him with a football tackle-take down. And thus, this "middle range" in a street fight is only very phasic.

Meaning one has to contend the KICK first and foremost as the longest range. And then, the boxing range. This middle of the range can easily close in very fast and even be "deleted" and move on towards the ground/grappling range.

And thus in the sport of boxing, one doesn't need to worry about being taken down via grapple. We don't care about "balance" because we can always clinch and the referree can break it up for us.

In a street fight, the "clinch" is just a start of a fight. How are you going "box" in that range? Call for a referree? hahahahhaha

You see, this would all make us think. Thus the MMA fighters have a fairly and relatively more "realistic" grasp of a street fight than a boxer. Sure we can still use some of the skills and attributes but again...the wrestler can easily dodge and take a hit as long as he would put us down on the ground.

Then it's lights out if one doesn't know how to grapple.

In JKD, the "jab" can take on the three ranges mentioned above....

• Kicking Range - Usage of "Jeet" (interceptions) via kicking the knees/shins with a sharp quasi-side kick to prevent your opponent from lunging at you. Or a front snap kick to his front thighs....anything to stop his momentum towards you.

• Boxing Range - Obviously the left or right jab. But it has to be tweaked. Balance is optimum instead of just a fast jab. The key is "fast" release and "fast" retraction of the hand/arm jabbing and going back to the on-guard position while the feet maintaining a distance to bounce backwards, sideways or attack again.

• Grappling Range - The "jab" here is the "guard"...how to maintain distance while being relaxed to be able to reverse positions.

And be able to go from the Kicking Range to Grappling Range and vice versa in a safe transition.

That is the reality of a street fight.

usually i just hit the guy and he falls down

[fdotorres]

i got into a fight not too long ago, and while boxing helped me to slip and dodge the shots, i just did judo on the dude. once you get grabbed with that ****, it's nighty night

i don't know if it is all instinct (i've trained judo since i was 4 years old and weighed 42 pounds), but every time that i've been in a fight, i've ****ed up the guy with judo. maybe it is because it's more of a inside type of fighting and what the hell, not everything in a brawl are punches, so knowing your martial arts IMO is more helpful in the street

[oside4life]

I go out I don't drink when I go out(past encounters) and drunk people piss me off so I like beating up on drunks it's f'n fun as hell, I'm like my friends personal trinidad lol. Drunk people suck

[fraidycat]

I've said this before on here. Boxing as a martial art doesn't win fights. Boxing TRAINING is what gives a boxer an edge, and is why everyone hates to fight boxers. A seasoned boxer with a few years of hard training and, say, a dozen fights, has taken several hundred full-force punches, and is acclimated to the pain and the shock. His brain won't shut down and go into panic mode once he tastes his own blood or gets the wind knocked out of him. He won't flinch away from an incoming blow; he'll slip it or block it. And most importantly, he WILL hit back. And it will hurt.

A bouncer friend of mine says, "I could take a boxer. I sure wouldn't want to, though."