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  • #11
    Originally posted by CornerCutman View Post
    If you want great endurance and to be physically fit, you can do that with boxing without sparring. In my view, no need to be in the ring, then. But, if you want to learn the sweet science and compete, or be able to use it, then you gotta dust yourself off like everyone else is saying and get back in. Do 1 thing better next time, that's it. Even if it's taking a punch better, do one thing better each time. It's a hard sport man, I sparred a middleweight two nights ago (I walk around at 147) and took a beating too, but hey I know what I need to work on for next time.
    Put a marathon runner in the ring and see how many rounds he can do. Not many.

    James sparred a ton as did I.

    How can you get in shape for fighting if you rarely spar? And what fun is boxing if you rarely spar?

    As James always said, "The world is full of bag beaters". But there are limited amounts of fighters....................Rockin'

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    • #12
      Theres a reason a man always remembers his 1st ass whoopin.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Rockin' View Post
        So you got your ass handed to you in sparring? So what, **** happens. A future champion would brush himself off and be right back in there the next day looking to do the routine again, looking to improve. I took a knee the first time sparring. But I was right back there looking to get better the very next night and each night that they were open after that. A future champion will take his lumps and then be there the next night looking to do it all again. Then again, you might be in the wrong sport. Only you can decide that. Either way, good luck.

        Note: WTF is your coach doing putting a green/beginning featherweieght in with an experienced, and aggressive supermiddle/light heavy weight for sparring? The guy could have/should have held back on you.

        Your learning disability is your lack of experience. Get back in there and get your experience. You'll see............Rockin'
        Bingo. The reason many believe beginners should be matched up with an experienced fighter is due to the veterans ability to protect himself without going hard , and hurting the beginner.
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        • #14
          Originally posted by Aspiring1 View Post
          I got into boxing recently with the prime objective to get into a good shape and build
          a great endurance. Stamina wise I am doing fine as I used to run regularly before joining
          the gym. However, I have a couple of severe limitations:
          1.I am too slow at learning movements and applying them owing to some sort of DCD (though undiagnosed) since early childhood
          [I avoided sports that involved use of coordinationand quick reflex all my life in order not to feel embarassed]
          2. I am too skinny for my height (weigh less than 130 lbs).
          These two factors led me to get my ass kicked really bad in the last
          sparring session by someone with less endurance but about 45 lb more muscle mass than me.
          During the fight this otherwise friendly guy seemed to be possessed by the ghost of
          a long dead heavyweight boxer and I simply couldn't think of and use right defense and offense
          technique at all. All I was doing was flinching, use guards in vain and getting beaten.

          This has made me dread the sparring altogether and made me reconsider if I'd want to spar at all the next
          time. However there is another skinny guy just like me who although joined later than I did
          was able to employ right techniques at right time and sparred really well with experienced
          and heavier members. So I know that my weight is not the exact issue but combined with my
          slow reflex and incapacity to learn and apply the movements (I still struggle to throw a
          jab properly while newbies in the gym seem to learn it in a matter of days).

          So in this situation what would you suggest that I do in order to save myself from being
          severely beaten during the sparring? Also do you have specific suggestions for someone with
          coordination-movement-reflex related learning disability who has finally decided to try
          boxing despite having avoided sports all his life just in order to save himself from humiliation ?
          You need reps. I have A.D.D. and an audio-processing disorder. The problem , I wasn't diagnosed until I was an adult. I couldn't learn in class like everybody else. I sat in class, totally over my head, and had to study the lesson on my own at home. I taught myself how to study and pass exams long after I graduated highs school by the skin of my teeth. If you're like me, you need to practice over and over, and over. I would ask your coach to teach you defensive drills , counter drills, and do hundreds of reps every single day. Also, shadow boxing, etc. When you get used to the drills, and have a little confidence built up, get your coach to have one of his more experienced fighters to spar you. He should know the weaknesses you are trying to correct, and fight you accordingly. I'm curious as to why he put you through a beat down like that. Ask him. If he doesn't have a clear reason, FIND A NEW COACH!!!!! JMHO
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          • #15
            Originally posted by Rockin' View Post

            Put a marathon runner in the ring and see how many rounds he can do. Not many.

            James sparred a ton as did I.

            How can you get in shape for fighting if you rarely spar? And what fun is boxing if you rarely spar?

            As James always said, "The world is full of bag beaters". But there are limited amounts of fighters....................Rockin'
            True, big difference between getting in shape and getting in fighting shape. Idk which he means - if he means just in shape then bags will get plenty done but yeah fighting shape, can't get there without sparring!
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            • #16
              Thank you all for your comments. Most of you have suggested that I stop making excuse, work my ass off and just get into the ring. Few, however, seem to understand my problem and have recommended that I start playing some other sport which will translate into boxing in terms of coordination and better reflex.

              Today I sparred again and tried my best to defend the blows. Fortunately, my sparring partners, although most of them kids under 15, understood my predicament and were easy on me, unlike the big agressive guy last week. They encouraged me to place punches rather than just standing there trying to defend.

              One other thing I forgot to mention in my OP is that I have never been involved in fight and don't remember punching anyone or getting punched since past 20 years or so (I'm 29). So I lack that fighting instinct whereas a 23 year-old in the gym says he has been involved in at least 100 fights in his lifetime! Do you think this experience matters for a would-be fighter?

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              • #17
                Don't start diagnosing yourself with a learning disability because you suck at sports. 99% of people suck at sports, especially when they first start.

                The experience you describe is something lots of people have had in boxing. You get taught how to parry shots by a coach (or some other technique), but then when you start sparring you aren't able to do it correctly. You just have to keep at it until these movements become more natural rather than something you consciously think about as much, and you get to understand the timing involved. Work on your jab too, you don't need to be super athletic to have a great jab.

                You are taller so practice landing a jab and then stepping off the line. Makes it harder for an opponent to just charge forwards. Not talking about a massive amount of movement but so that you aren't there to be caught as they come straight forwards after your jab.

                If you really believe you have a disability then go to a doctor and don't take part in any activity that involves getting punched by people. Obviously?
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                • #18
                  You need to release your inner r3tard you ever seen how many care home assistants it takes to restraint a r3tard? At least 5 even for the smallest guy and maybe a couple of tranquilizers

                  Next time imagine the guy is mocking your problem and let him punch you a few times then unleash hell just make sure you leave your car engine running outside in case you kill him and have to make a quick exit

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by davef View Post
                    You need to release your inner r3tard you ever seen how many care home assistants it takes to restraint a r3tard? At least 5 even for the smallest guy and maybe a couple of tranquilizers

                    Next time imagine the guy is mocking your problem and let him punch you a few times then unleash hell just make sure you leave your car engine running outside in case you kill him and have to make a quick exit
                    Why would you ever just let somebody hit you? .............Rockin'

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Aspiring1 View Post
                      I got into boxing recently with the prime objective to get into a good shape and build
                      a great endurance. Stamina wise I am doing fine as I used to run regularly before joining
                      the gym. However, I have a couple of severe limitations:
                      1.I am too slow at learning movements and applying them owing to some sort of DCD (though undiagnosed) since early childhood
                      [I avoided sports that involved use of coordinationand quick reflex all my life in order not to feel embarassed]
                      2. I am too skinny for my height (weigh less than 130 lbs).
                      These two factors led me to get my ass kicked really bad in the last
                      sparring session by someone with less endurance but about 45 lb more muscle mass than me.
                      During the fight this otherwise friendly guy seemed to be possessed by the ghost of
                      a long dead heavyweight boxer and I simply couldn't think of and use right defense and offense
                      technique at all. All I was doing was flinching, use guards in vain and getting beaten.

                      This has made me dread the sparring altogether and made me reconsider if I'd want to spar at all the next
                      time. However there is another skinny guy just like me who although joined later than I did
                      was able to employ right techniques at right time and sparred really well with experienced
                      and heavier members. So I know that my weight is not the exact issue but combined with my
                      slow reflex and incapacity to learn and apply the movements (I still struggle to throw a
                      jab properly while newbies in the gym seem to learn it in a matter of days).

                      So in this situation what would you suggest that I do in order to save myself from being
                      severely beaten during the sparring? Also do you have specific suggestions for someone with
                      coordination-movement-reflex related learning disability who has finally decided to try
                      boxing despite having avoided sports all his life just in order to save himself from humiliation ?
                      You can take baby steps, but a lot of guys who already responded probably won't encourage it lol. Don't use your learning disability as an excuse... I came up a runt and got plastered all over the place starting out... tough love.

                      Here is what my teacher did, this was martial arts but it applies I suspect. Practice using one technique very well. Over and over. Get good at it. Go into sparring with the intention of using the technique you practiced. You will teach yourself to depend on technique, a valuable first lesson. Now boxing guys may have a different take...But once you do that with 3 techniques or so? the variations are endless how to use them. This is enough to develop a style, a way you do things... a way for you to be effective, as you.

                      Also watch tape of great fighters... If it makes you feel better, I got plastered from pillar to post for a week, then I was taught one tecnique, then two, and I learned pretty quickly I had great legs, so I watched guys who could kick... Stick with it you will figure it out.

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