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  • #51
    And if you adhere to false gods and false spiritualities and heresies/false lights all these things will have a negative effect. Only the true Light in your soul is what gives it strength.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Christus Regnat View Post
      Your spiritual preparation in boxing or anything you do is as important if not more important than the physical. And your body and spirit are not disconnected. If one is lacking than the other will be lacking also and not in any small way. In fact your spiritual preparation is more important than the physical. And nobody wins or loses passes or fails anything except by God. And your religion determines who are also.

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      Propaganda is a more effective and important tool of war than is a main battle tank. But of course propaganda is no good if it's lies and it's counter to Christ it will have the opposite effect. For this reason a modestly equipped divsion spiritually preparded would almost always defeat a 3 splendidly equipped spiritually depressed divisions. And if your Catholic your religion is going to determine entirely who are as fighter. Your whole being and your soul. It's the most important thing even in boxing.
      Yes I see so many AM's lose due to losing their spiritual essense, **** no they lose because they haven't trained hard enough. This debate is pointless as no side is going to change the others point of view.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Salty View Post
        Yes I see so many AM's lose due to losing their spiritual essense, **** no they lose because they haven't trained hard enough. This debate is pointless as no side is going to change the others point of view.
        Are you contending that the body is divorced from the spirit?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Salty View Post
          During training show me a fighter who goes out and binge drinks, I know Hatton does, but in his time off.
          i mean in and out of training. Hopkins is in top condition and is able to fight at the top level at 43 becasue his fighting style but also because he is clean living in and out of training

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          • #55
            Originally posted by JulioCesaChavez View Post
            We've already gone over this. Man's inhumanity to man has nothing to do with the presence of religion. Take it away and people will still find a reason to be ****s just like Chairman 'Religion is poison' Mao and Joseph ' religion is the opium of the masses' Stalin did! In hunter gatherer tribes through history, where they had no organised religion ther e were still murders etc. Bombs were not made my God, but by man.

            They don't. whcih is why so many atheists top themselves and think they will go to sleep or Disneyland! Without any faith, their lives are empty shells and this is a fact as there is no MEANING to life. This is why they don't have the balls to hang in there with all the top fighters who are almost always extremely religious people. Even the ones who don't seem to practise devoutly will have strong religious beliefs. Atheism is a characteristic of a geek or loner, not a fighter.
            To be honest, I can't think of any Top fighter who was an athiest. Look at Roy Jones even - he's not from a 3rd world country and he's deeply religious. I can think of fighters that didn't know much about religion, but never self proclaimed athiests.

            This whole "I can believe in myself to give me motivation" is BS, that never works unless someone thrives on being lonely or empty....which few do. That saying is something Athiests like to say to look all epic online, but in reality they don't truly believe in themselves like they say. I think this is why everyone is so depressed these days, all trying to do everything on their own and stressing it out. If I was an Athiest I'd prob just say screw it and work at beckers for 80 years and not give a ****.

            Hell, even Floyd Mayweather, as big of an idiot as he is - is religious.

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            • #56
              atheism requires more faith than the true religion does. It's absurd.

              How did the stars get made (I dont know big boom)
              DNA Strands (big boom primordial sludge)
              where did teh big **** come from (no answer)
              how does a horse evolve into a whale (evolution ) Hmm How many millions of evolutions and transitory creatuers are required for a horse to evolve in a whale? How does a horse living on land adapt so precisely to become a sea creature? This would take trillions of years you know?

              And what about all the saints and their miracles (ah that's all made up)
              What about Resurection of Christ (eh they stole the body)
              what about when people die (the die and dont exist anymore they're gone for eternity)

              It requires alot of ver particular faith to adhere to atheism you see
              No real science can support this
              Last edited by Christus Regnat; 12-03-2008, 09:45 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Christus Regnat View Post
                atheism requires more faith than the true religion does. It's absurd.

                How did the stars get made (I dont know big boom)
                DNA Strands (big boom primordial sludge)
                where did teh big **** come from (no answer)
                how does a horse evolve into a whale (evolution ) Hmm How many millions of evolutions and transitory creatuers are required for a horse to evolve in a whale? How does a horse living on land adapt so precisely to become a sea creature? This would take trillions of years you know?

                And what about all the saints and their miracles (ah that's all made up)
                What about Resurection of Christ (eh they stole the body)
                what about when people die (the die and dont exist anymore they're gone for eternity)

                It requires alot of ver particular faith to adhere to atheism you see
                No real science can support this
                A horse never evolves into a whale, well the earth has been around for 3 billion years, how does your bible explain the fact that we have only known about the major few religions for a few thousand years? The big **** cycle can still be seen today in the explosion of stars. DNA didn't come from primordial sludge, some think it was an off shoot from the self replicating RNA or a bolt of lightning through early atmospheric conditions. How do you guys explain dinosaur fossils?

                If some facts in the bible are open for interpretation such as the world being made in 7 days, couldn't these "miracles" also be open for interpretation rather than word for word truth? Hell even Revelation is about the downfall of the Roman empire.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Christus Regnat View Post
                  For this reason a modestly equipped divsion spiritually preparded would almost always defeat a 3 splendidly equipped spiritually depressed divisions.
                  Originally posted by Christus Regnat View Post
                  And if you adhere to false gods and false spiritualities and heresies/false lights all these things will have a negative effect. Only the true Light in your soul is what gives it strength.
                  I think you have swallowed too many light sabers Yoda.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
                    To be honest, I can't think of any Top fighter who was an athiest. Look at Roy Jones even - he's not from a 3rd world country and he's deeply religious. I can think of fighters that didn't know much about religion, but never self proclaimed athiests.

                    This whole "I can believe in myself to give me motivation" is BS, that never works unless someone thrives on being lonely or empty....which few do. That saying is something Athiests like to say to look all epic online, but in reality they don't truly believe in themselves like they say. I think this is why everyone is so depressed these days, all trying to do everything on their own and stressing it out. If I was an Athiest I'd prob just say screw it and work at beckers for 80 years and not give a ****.

                    Hell, even Floyd Mayweather, as big of an idiot as he is - is religious.

                    what religion is floyd?? christian i assume but i dunno hop is a ****** so floyd could be i suppose....

                    has he ever talked about it publicly??

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                    • #60
                      People Say When Im In The Ring Im On My Own This Is Wrong God Is With Me

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