Does having a religion make you better at boxing?

[Salty]

All this is pure bull****. I'm glad you dropped in the word masses, because it was Karl Marx who said religion was an opium for the masses. His followers Moa and Stalin had no religion, but it did not stop them from being as brutal as a human can be. Their anti-religious agenda was similar to yours and quite....religiously followed! Mao even said religion was poison and forced peaceful Tibetan monks to fornicate with nuns in the streets. I wish I had been one of them monks and busted one of them cherries open, lol! On a more serious note, being anti-religious did not stop him from killing babies for population control and in general as a brutal dictator. To this day, Chinese people kill daughters the same way Hindu's in India. False religion is a problem, but so is any false doctrine as this example shows. They are both doing same thing for different reasons.


Stats will probably prove this to be true. I think this is because non-religious people are empty inside, and therefore do not have it in the bread basket. Faith will probably help you in the ring, or any situation where your life is on the line and you KNOW it means something. But accept Islam for your salvation anyway.

Like anything which has large influence over the masses it become corrupt, religion is no different. I don't think I need to say the line but who cares "Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely". How can something be a false religion? You can't prove it exists, they all are false religions unless of course you totally discount the fossil records of the last 3 billion years. But hey that is not the question here, if someone needs a "god" to make themselves complete I think they are missing a large part of self identity. If you are not willing to fight and defend your own life because you don't think it means something then your ****ing ****** and need to revalue your life. I actually pity people who have to rely on something external to give themselves peace, as they must be in a very dark place to have to resort to that.

[JulioCesaChavez]

Like anything which has large influence over the masses it become corrupt, religion is no different. I don't think I need to say the line but who cares "Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely". How can something be a false religion? You can't prove it exists, they all are false religions unless of course you totally discount the fossil records of the last 3 billion years. But hey that is not the question here, if someone needs a "god" to make themselves complete I think they are missing a large part of self identity. If you are not willing to fight and defend your own life because you don't think it means something then your ****ing ****** and need to revalue your life. I actually pity people who have to rely on something external to give themselves peace, as they must be in a very dark place to have to resort to that.

It's not external! And the fossils and science do not contradict Islam, and in fact proves it according to the book by Maurice Buccaille. Each to their own is the best way to address this mass-debate. I just wanted to point out that religion cannot be blamed for man's inherent barbaric nature. People may have killed in the name of religion, but they will continue to kill each other as that is what a human is: a killer.

[Salty]

It's not external! And the fossils and science do not contradict Islam, and in fact proves it according to the book by Maurice Buccaille. Each to their own is the best way to address this mass-debate. I just wanted to point out that religion cannot be blamed for man's inherent barbaric nature. People may have killed in the name of religion, but they will continue to kill each other as that is what a human is: a killer.

It does contradict islam, islam after all accepts the old testament therefor accepts that the world was created in 7 days. Well if religion can't be blamed for man's barbaric nature, who the **** can? After all God created us in his own image, must be one sadistic ****er with the kinds of scum in this world. It is an external source of faith and happiness, your not dwelling up the feelings of faith and safety from within yourself, your feeling that because some man in the clouds is looking out for you and if something happens you get to go up there and drink peyote with him all day. It provides a crutch for people who can not deal with the harsh reality which is planet earth.

[Trrmo]

All this is pure bull****. I'm glad you dropped in the word masses, because it was Karl Marx who said religion was an opium for the masses. His followers Moa and Stalin had no religion, but it did not stop them from being as brutal as a human can be. Their anti-religious agenda was similar to yours and quite....religiously followed! Mao even said religion was poison and forced peaceful Tibetan monks to fornicate with nuns in the streets. I wish I had been one of them monks and busted one of them cherries open, lol! On a more serious note, being anti-religious did not stop him from killing babies for population control and in general as a brutal dictator. To this day, Chinese people kill daughters the same way Hindu's in India. False religion is a problem, but so is any false doctrine as this example shows. They are both doing same thing for different reasons.


Stats will probably prove this to be true. I think this is because non-religious people are empty inside, and therefore do not have it in the bread basket. Faith will probably help you in the ring, or any situation where your life is on the line and you KNOW it means something. But accept Islam for your salvation anyway.

If people want to be religous it is their choice, I am not stopping them. Just dont enforce on those of us who dont believe. Just to the original poster that you do not need to have religious belief to motivate yourself.

Mao and Stalin also replaced religion with dictatorship by the state which is also terrible, thiey didnt actually realise the ideals of Marx anyway. Most humanist or athiests though support democracy and freedom of thought, not repressive regime.

Alsom, a little know fact about the pre-Maoist Tibetan regime is that the people were also often brutally repressed as much under the Tibetan feudal system. http://revcom.us/a/125/tibet-background-en.html

And all you have to do is read some of your posts such as the stuff you sent to Markeeta causing you to get banned to see that if you call yourself ****** you are insulting your own religion.

Your posts Would you like to suck on my lollipop? Or maybe I can by you a long ice cream lolly so you can put it in all the way right back to your throat and close your eyes as you enjoy the cream. What do you think? it'll depend on the weather because in the cold it'll just have to be the lolly.

LOL

pity, some of your boxing posts I agree with all the way.

[JulioCesaChavez]

In his own image? Old testament story is same as Islam? You have not done your research and know nothing about Islam. Like I said each to their own is best way to end this debate as it won;t go nowhere. I just wanted to point out the elusive obvious to you atheist fundamentalist ******* nutters and give a few examoples of non religious people and violence. Funny I mentioned fascism, because that was another secular barbaric ideology. Contrary to what Bush told you, Saddam's Baath party was alos a nationalist secular organisation. The list goes on and on.

[rorymac]

religion is great and helps me with boxing sometimes i guess but you shouldnt be looking for a religion to solely help you in boxing, its means so much more than that

does it?????

[them_apples]

It's not external! And the fossils and science do not contradict Islam, and in fact proves it according to the book by Maurice Buccaille. Each to their own is the best way to address this mass-debate. I just wanted to point out that religion cannot be blamed for man's inherent barbaric nature. People may have killed in the name of religion, but they will continue to kill each other as that is what a human is: a killer.

I agree, I think nutcases sometimes use religion as a tool. There will always be nutcases, religion or not. Blaming it on religion is the easy way out. Athiest countries have often proved to be the most depressing and violent countries in the world. North Korea and Russia are some good examples.

[Kelly Robinson]

Good thread, didn't someone who posted here and boxed for a while stopped boxing because he converted to Christianity. He made a couple of very long threads informing everyone that he was quitting boxing for good because he thought that hurting another human being was wrong or a sin.

I wonder what he would say about this.

Religion motivated him to stopped training and he won't even watch a boxing match.

It depends on the person, but that's a good question.

[dfwtx]

Good thread, didn't someone who posted here and boxed for a while stopped boxing because he converted to Christianity. He made a couple of very long threads informing everyone that he was quitting boxing for good because he thought that hurting another human being was wrong or a sin.

I wonder what he would say about this.

Religion motivated him to stopped training and he won't even watch a boxing match.

It depends on the person, but that's a good question.

I didn't want to dog him on his own thread but I thought it was regrettable that he was quitting what he loved to appease a 2000 year old cult leader

[TheTruthIs]

Yea, I don't get how God and this works. Putting my own beliefs aside, I'm not sure how anyone of any supposedly loving religion and God can say before a match in good faith..."OK God, let me beat the ever loving **** out of my opponent. Bring it for me, one time! Amen."

But hey...w/e works I spose.