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i train in west palm beach where UFC fighter Hermes Franca teaches a jits class, and he be boxing the am's and pros at our gym. I've seen him spar wit them and well... he needs more practice in boxing, golden gloves champ usually works him.
im a big MMA fan since late PrideFC days and a big fan of boxing but i like boxing more. MMA fighters can give a boxer a run for its money.
if a boxer were to transition over to MMA, all he would need is good takedown defense, some muay thai, and some jits/wrestling, and he would dominate any MMA org IMO. I dont see any fighters with any decent boxing other than Anderson Silva and maybe Rampage.
Boxers and MMA fighters are ignorant when talking about each others sports respectively, i see it in my gym, some of you guys see it in your gym, we'll always see it in our gyms, that's just the way people are.
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Our ideas of martial arts are tainted by McDojos which sell an idea of invulnerability, and latterly by the MMA craze in which any schmo can set up a gym, teach a sprawl and a combo or two and play heavy metal music while wearing overpriced designer t-shirts.
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Originally posted by squealpiggy View PostOur ideas of martial arts are tainted by McDojos which sell an idea of invulnerability, and latterly by the MMA craze in which any schmo can set up a gym, teach a sprawl and a combo or two and play heavy metal music while wearing overpriced designer t-shirts.
that is exactly the problem.
anyone here even speaking on traditional arts, and how tey are and were practiced, is wrong. that simple.
everyone here besides me and squeal's last comment here is wrong. please do not comment on things u do not know. your credibility....well, u do not have any in martial arts. and getting your yellow belt in a karate mcdojo does not count.
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Originally posted by j View Postman, the water here is muddy. boxers only look better at boxing because that s all the have to worry about is punches to torso and head. they do not have to worry about elbows(much), or kicks or knees or chokes.
but my post wasnt about boxing vs MMA. I have a healthy respect for MMA. It was about how the effectiveness of traditional martial arts is exaggerated.
Originally posted by j View Postme, i come from a traditional backround. more closer to the **** u see bas rutten do in pancrase, or cung le do in sanshou or elite xc. except more efficient
and if your style is that effective for boxing then how many amateur boxing titles do you hold? are you a pro contender? how many real boxing matches have you had? the trouble is with many martial artists they talk how great and effective their style is but it doesnt work in boxing.
This is a boxing forum last time I checked.
Like me trying to say how my break dancing and electric boogaloo makes me a more efficient boxer.
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Originally posted by TheBlackSwifty View Posttrue
but my post wasnt about boxing vs MMA. I have a healthy respect for MMA. It was about how the effectiveness of traditional martial arts is exaggerated.
My guess without having seen you fight is that Bas rutten would kick your ass in any style, and if your style is more efficient than Rutten and Cung Le why dont you prove it by winning fights in MMA?
and if your style is that effective for boxing then how many amateur boxing titles do you hold? are you a pro contender? how many real boxing matches have you had? the trouble is with many martial artists they talk how great and effective their style is but it doesnt work in boxing.
This is a boxing forum last time I checked.
Like me trying to say how my break dancing and electric boogaloo makes me a more efficient boxer.
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first of, kids, i started 20 years ago - longer than u have been alive i imagine. second of all, where do u get exagerations from? sure, through time some stories get exaggerated. but having EXPERIENCE with some of todays top guys, i know FIRST-HAND what the people are capable of. and it is literally scary.
so, until u tell me what top guys you have trained with, sparred, or fought, why the hell should anyone take your "knowledge" seriously? yes, i an a big fat geek as evidenced by my photo.
u have been owned!
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Originally posted by j View Postfirst of, kids, i started 20 years ago - longer than u have been alive i imagine. second of all, where do u get exagerations from? sure, through time some stories get exaggerated. but having EXPERIENCE with some of todays top guys, i know FIRST-HAND what the people are capable of. and it is literally scary.
so, until u tell me what top guys you have trained with, sparred, or fought, why the hell should anyone take your "knowledge" seriously? yes, i an a big fat geek as evidenced by my photo.
u have been owned!
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