Martial Arts & boxing

[Danny Gunz]

I thought it was pretty ****in obvious in my post that it was just an opinion i said "in my experience which is very limited" i just ****in threw something out there and you guys started acting like i was speaking blasphemy

Almost all boxers in pros can take a punch because you need to be able to take a punch in the pros because that is gonna be the first thing to be exposed. In MMA it isnt exposed as much because there are more dimensions to the fight, so the ratio of boxers to MMA or MA fighters with weak chins is lopsided in boxings favor most likely.

Either way i dont give a **** about whos tougher i was just saying something i thought... im a boxer i dont care if i can beat up a mixed martial artist cause that wont happen i only have to fight other boxers.

Equilibrium go **** yourself, i dont care if you disagree with me just dont be an ******* about it. same thing with j

[12th Round KO]

since when was this topic about training or nutrition?

[hinduw]

I thought it was pretty ****in obvious in my post that it was just an opinion i said "in my experience which is very limited" i just ****in threw something out there and you guys started acting like i was speaking blasphemy

Almost all boxers in pros can take a punch because you need to be able to take a punch in the pros because that is gonna be the first thing to be exposed. In MMA it isnt exposed as much because there are more dimensions to the fight, so the ratio of boxers to MMA or MA fighters with weak chins is lopsided in boxings favor most likely.

Either way i dont give a **** about whos tougher i was just saying something i thought... im a boxer i dont care if i can beat up a mixed martial artist cause that wont happen i only have to fight other boxers.

Equilibrium go **** yourself, i dont care if you disagree with me just dont be an ******* about it. same thing with j

don't argue with them, they have watched one to many dragon bal z episodes

[sugarshanenas]

this thread is pointless honestly foreal

[Chayal Boded.]

the argument that mma is more like a streetfight is bull**** because they are both sports and it has nothing to do with it. besides in mma they do **** that leaves their junk wide open and put their face in your chest they'd get their eyes gauged in a streetfight. ****** argument.

[KostyaTszyu44]

man, these comments make me sick. learn about something before u ****ing attempt to speak on it. just shows how ignorant people are.

haha. i laugh at these stereotypes or misunderstandings most of u have built in your head. non of it is even logical either.

boxers superior reactions lol. where did that statistic come from?
anyone who posts with any kind of authority on martial arts should be made to actually learn real martial arts in the first place so u don't sound so ******! haha

if it is really so easy to beat a martial artists, pick one i approve of. or pick a club i approve of. maybe tell me what city u live in and i will find the best local MA group. then all of us can see who is tough enough to go and challenge a mere MA student lol.

with all due respect, you should probably join a martial arts forum

of course you will get biased boxers reactions here, its a boxing forum and we all box

[BennyST]

First of all .- this is a boxing forum

The point is if the dude hasnt had any proper boxing matches why does he think he knows so much about boxing and how to be an effective boxer?
He could be effective in his sport and great in a street fight, so what? this is about boxing! the old dude in his signature taught martial arts, not boxing. And its typical of martial artists to exaggerate the real world fighting ability of
these old masters saying they can throw boxers around like 5 year olds. (note the word árt´ in martial arts - ie form over function)
I have had many am fights as well believe what ya want.
I respect M.artists that train full contact and with mixed styles, but boxing, in a ring, under boxing rules, is a different thing. If ya a M. artist and have had boxing matches or train in boxing great, if not ya experiences dont mean much here.

Indeed it is a boxing forum. Wasn't it you who created a thread about martial arts though? While it is a boxing forum, can a martial artist not be interested in both boxing and martial arts? They are both rather similar.

You're right though. Many martial arts and the fighters/effects of, can be overly exaggerated but I don't believe that is so much from the actual fighters or martial artists that actually do train to fight, but are actually exaggerated by the ones that don't fight but are interested in the culture and philosophy of it all and get caught up in the myths and tradition of it all.

I have trained a lot in both boxing from a very young age and also in Sanda/Sanshou, which if you don't know is a martial art that is, to put it very simply, like Muay Thai with throws. Good, effective, simple fighting style. No BS. I'm certainly not going to pretend I can beat any boxer or anything because I don't care about that. I love both boxing and Sanda. I'm training in boxing much more again right now after a long hiatus from all training in general, but I fought when I was younger in the amateurs for boxing before giving it up to train and fight in martial arts. Like any sport, in boxing the boxer will beat the other guy and in martial arts the MA will beat the boxer. They are sports and this is not street fighting.

I don't know man, I just don't get the whole macho need to pretend that something is better than another. You see it everywhere and in everything. "That UFC guy would own a boxer in MMA rules! Boxing sucks!" or "Mayweather would own every MMA guy! They wouldn't even be able to touch him and after one punch they would be knocked out cold!" are all arguments you hear from each faction. They are all ******.

I think this thread comes down to one thing. Many martial artists don't train for fighting anymore. The majority is about fitness and health and while some pretend that they still can fight the majority don't pretend any such thing and actually dissuade students from thinking that way. Also, there are some that train for fighting but in their own rules. Like any sport, each one has it's own set of rules to follow which makes none superior to another. If you're a great boxer you're great in boxing rules. If you're a great Karate guy you're going to be great in Karate fighting rules. There are a few that also still train for simple, plain effective street fighting.

You'll always get purists that will never admit that something else is good or interesting and will refuse to budge on their view that everything but what they do is inferior. Sad people, but they're are the small minded, sad ones. Like anything there are good fighters and bad fighters in every style, whether it be boxing, Karate or MMA. I don't think you can judge either one until you've actually trained with or even fought with the very good ones in each or make wild assumptions about something even though you probably have no idea what you're talking about (this isn't aimed at you by the way. Just a general statement). Like the weak chin thing some people have been saying. That is quite simply impossible to know. I've seen both boxers and MA's that have both good and bad chins. There is no rule that makes boxers tougher and if you think there is, you're just small minded. It's ridiculous to think that someone with a weak chin will leave boxing because they get hurt whereas in MA they would stay. People don't get weeded out like that.

Anyway, I think, as I mentioned previously, that it comes down to the simple fact that a lot of people use MA for health and fitness now and so the majority don't train to fight. The ones that do can fight and fight well. Just have a look at some Sanshou. Great fighters. I believe J mentioned Cung Le who is a Sanshou guy. He's a good fighter. There are also just as many people who do boxing for fitness now and it's getting more popular as a fitness sport instead of a fighting sport. The same thing applies. Those that do it for fitness will probably never spar and therefore cannot fight. Boxing still has more sparring than most martial arts do though. Doesn't make it any better or anything like though. Just different purposes. That's all. If you box, great. Are you good at it? If you do martial arts, great. Are you good at that? Each to his own and all that stuff.

[TheBlackSwifty]

Good post Benny

[Cise]

this is why i take boxing on weekdays and Muay Thai on weekends lol.

[Machine Gunz]

anybody ever been in a nightclub brawl? with people shoulder to shoulder, there is only one sport that can do damage in that situation, boxing. you dont have room to use kickboxing, you cant a taekwondo axe kick, there is no way you can wrestle a guy to the ground put in a arm/leg lock or anything like that because there is no room.

what you can do however, is use the sweet science of boxing, short hooks to the jaw, straight rights, you can throw an uppercut to the bottom of the chin - needing no space at all. all you need is a little step to throw a potential KO overhand right to end the situation