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  • #31
    Originally posted by DA1CATAS View Post
    HMMMMM...... i went to 195 from my fight weight *(165)* now im 174..... i usually feel drained and horrible around this point in making weight and just sweat the rest of it out for my 2 day tournaments... but i actually feel great now, and haven't even been sweating crazy like i usually aim for... running 2-3 times the day to make sure im 167 atleast...

    I feel if i continue this i can maintain 165 easily... that good?
    did i mention my energy is BETTER than ever compared to my other methods of the past around this tiem of making weight.



    MORE KNOWLEDGE PLEASE!!!
    Haha - that's probably because you're constantly eating, as opposed to eating 2-3 meals a day before and eating a lot in one meal to the point where you feel groggy and heavy. Sure you feel great - it might even be because you're trying something new. But, like PunchDrunk mentioned, there's no miracle way to lose weight and continue losing it, and constantly eat, eat, eat. At some point you're going to hit the weight your body wants to maintain on this new eating pattern, and you'll probably get used to this new energy cycle as well.

    Anyways, if its working for you right now, more power to you man. Good luck at your next fight by the way. Try to get some good sparring in.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Domain View Post
      first off on that last thing about eating more often making you lose weight it snot because you are way above the weight you can get too...its because eating more often and just enough makes the metabolism speed up if you eat huge ass meals instead of small ones your digestive system will slow down making you put on more fat, eating just to fuel your body with small portions 6 to 8 times a day will make you burn more fat by speeding the metabolism faster.

      If you are eating "CLEAN" and just a handful and not till full then you will lose fat...the rest is water weight...the science is muscle burns more calories then fat.

      If you get a good nutritionist they will make a diet but too many boxing trainers or boxing guys are old school and have to much pride to hire one...they rather their guy starve to make weight which is messed up.

      well of course metabolism has much to do with it...but my cousin is a dietitian and personal trainer and he has taken some of the fattest people you would know and swiped a good 50 pounds of a few weeks with diet alone.

      its all about what you eat and the timing along with workouts it takes tons of discipline but in the end it can be achieved might take longer for some but unless you have a thyroid problem that makes you fat easy it can be done.
      Look, I understand the dynamics of why you can lose weight when you eat more often, and I'm not saying you have to be fat for it to work. What I'm saying is, that ultimately it's a matter of eating less calories than you burn. Speeding your metabolism up is merely a method that allows you to burn more calories. The fact remains that if you still eat more calories than you use, you will not lose weight. There's no magic involved here, what you put in is what you get out.
      My point is that you won't ever be able to get DA1 down to featherweight, no matter how many times he eats a day. At some point, that stops, and he'll have to diet to lose beyond that point. That point is where most high level boxers are at, or even far beyond.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by DA1CATAS View Post
        2 slices pizza and coffe for breakfast...9:30 ....1 slice pizza and chicken with ranch sauce (1 chicken) 1:30......... Sweet potato (with butter so it tastes like pie lol.) and chiekn at 5 pm..... same thing again at 9pm and some banana split ice cream b4 bed.

        went to bed pound under what I woke up, with absolutely no training..

        With training today I lost like 4.

        I have always lost weight easily when about to fight.. but this was ridiculous... I was eating all the time whateva I wanted 4 hours isn't that long to wait at all.. especially if you sleep and do some stuff .. its great.

        I'll never have a weight problem again with this.


        will make a video if someone wants some proof or sumthin. People on here have been saying this for the longest.. i just never tried or believed.. thought I would just keep gaining.. But man .. its great.


        Now I'm going to start throwing in FRUITS for some meals.. I can only imagine how much i will lose.
        Try eating about ever 2 1/2 hours, half of what you eat for tehe every 4 hour plan...... double up on carbs about an hour before working out. The first few days your body will be like WTF? youll be hungry and want to eat more, but after about a week and a 1/2 youll never be hungry after eating, even if its like 100 calories, and youll lose much more weight.....I lost 10 pounds in 3 weeks. Plus drink a lot of water. After that, just focus on eating SOMETHING ever 2 1/2 hours, as long as its natural and watch your portions. 4 hours is a bit too long in between.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
          Look, I understand the dynamics of why you can lose weight when you eat more often, and I'm not saying you have to be fat for it to work. What I'm saying is, that ultimately it's a matter of eating less calories than you burn. Speeding your metabolism up is merely a method that allows you to burn more calories. The fact remains that if you still eat more calories than you use, you will not lose weight. There's no magic involved here, what you put in is what you get out.
          My point is that you won't ever be able to get DA1 down to featherweight, no matter how many times he eats a day. At some point, that stops, and he'll have to diet to lose beyond that point. That point is where most high level boxers are at, or even far beyond.
          If you eat tons of calories of course you will put weight if you DO NOT have an intense workout regimen and eat empty calories like junk foods.
          But micheal phelps eats 12,000 Calories a DAY but he eats often! and he is thin as a rail he can do this because he is active and constantly burning calories and needs fuel so his body does not start burning his muscles.

          It all depends on your activity level, and your genetic make up

          Marathon runners have to carb up like crazy as well for fuel.

          I have to break it down to you because you over looked it its all about Timing hence eating ever 3-4 hours a day small meals...if you do this then you will lose weight.

          because you eat to live not eat to be full.

          now if you eat 3 whole meals huge ones with the same amount of calories as the 6-8 meals a day then you will get FAT.

          Its all about the timing you burn that small meal faster and get your digestive system working to digest the food faster so your body uses that fuel faster not turning it into fat...if you ate the huge meals then you body would digest what it needs and then store the rest as fat.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by MikeBrew328 View Post
            Try eating about ever 2 1/2 hours, half of what you eat for tehe every 4 hour plan...... double up on carbs about an hour before working out. The first few days your body will be like WTF? youll be hungry and want to eat more, but after about a week and a 1/2 youll never be hungry after eating, even if its like 100 calories, and youll lose much more weight.....I lost 10 pounds in 3 weeks. Plus drink a lot of water. After that, just focus on eating SOMETHING ever 2 1/2 hours, as long as its natural and watch your portions. 4 hours is a bit too long in between.
            Thanx... That sounds good... method sounds straight..

            Man I'm excited about how everyone is responding... But to be honest Its not as easy for me to understand reading it just once after reading response after response...

            Hope that doesn't make me dumb.. but yea All you guys responses are GREAT,... getting a lil confused or bogged down though... Seems like your all saying the same thing but in different ways....But i have to read them all again and really pay attention to make sure that statement i made is even correct lol.

            I wish i knew as much as all of you guys seem to know. I'm definitely reading and learning though.

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            • #36
              I eat every 15 minutes and I've put on 3 stone since the start of the year.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Domain View Post

                I have to break it down to you because you over looked it its all about Timing hence eating ever 3-4 hours a day small meals...if you do this then you will lose weight.

                because you eat to live not eat to be full.

                now if you eat 3 whole meals huge ones with the same amount of calories as the 6-8 meals a day then you will get FAT.


                Its all about the timing you burn that small meal faster and get your digestive system working to digest the food faster so your body uses that fuel faster not turning it into fat...if you ate the huge meals then you body would digest what it needs and then store the rest as fat.
                Cant agree with that at all, if I personally condense say 6 smaller meals down to only 3 larger meals and the overall calories are the same for the day, and my exercise the same, It would make F-all difference to my overall weight!

                maybe it would help in a small way for someone trying to lose weight, but its calories out vs calories in that really matters, timing is of secondary importance!

                though ideally I would eat the small meals to make sure my body was getting the nutrients for recovery and growth when it needs them.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Trrmo View Post
                  Cant agree with that at all, if I personally condense say 6 smaller meals down to only 3 larger meals and the overall calories are the same for the day, and my exercise the same, It would make F-all difference to my overall weight!

                  maybe it would help in a small way for someone trying to lose weight, but its calories out vs calories in that really matters, timing is of secondary importance!

                  though ideally I would eat the small meals to make sure my body was getting the nutrients for recovery and growth when it needs them.
                  well then disagree with every single dietitian and trainer then.

                  I used to wrestler and I cut more weight while being healthy with the small meals.

                  Timing and proportion of meals is everything learn about it.

                  And wonder why if you eat 3 big loaded meals you get a fatter gut and why when you eat often clean and small meals you stay lean.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Domain View Post
                    well then disagree with every single dietitian and trainer then.

                    I used to wrestler and I cut more weight while being healthy with the small meals.

                    Timing and proportion of meals is everything learn about it.

                    And wonder why if you eat 3 big loaded meals you get a fatter gut and why when you eat often clean and small meals you stay lean.
                    Man seriously, do some research, calories in vs calories out is the biggest determinator of weight gain or loss, this isnt rocket science

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Trrmo View Post
                      Man seriously, do some research, calories in vs calories out is the biggest determinator of weight gain or loss, this isnt rocket science
                      You are telling me to Do Research when you should be the one doing research...

                      here is a study about people on low carb diets and high calories and still losing more weight then the placebo... I wouldnt suggest using atkins if you are an athlete but I would do low carb days if you are trying to lose weight before a fight...I usually take most of my carbs early in the morning for energy like wheat and oats, and then post workout ill take my fast digesting carbs to replenish with my protein shake then limit my carbs after that. I was able to cut weight with intense training for my wrestling




                      Study surprise: Low-carb dieters eat more, lose weight

                      FORT LAUDERDALE, Florida (AP) --The dietary establishment has long argued it's impossible, but a new study offers intriguing evidence for the idea that people on low-carbohydrate diets can actually eat more than folks on standard lowfat plans and still lose weight.

                      Perhaps no idea is more controversial in the diet world than the contention -- long espoused by the late Dr. Robert Atkins -- that people on low-carbohydrate diets can consume more calories without paying a price on the scales.

                      Over the past year, several small studies have shown, to many experts' surprise, that the Atkins approach actually does work better, at least in the short run. Dieters lose more than those on a standard American Heart Association plan without driving up their cholesterol levels, as many feared would happen.

                      Skeptics contend, however, that these dieters simply must be eating less. Maybe the low-carb diets are more satisfying, so they do not get so hungry. Or perhaps the food choices are just so limited that low-carb dieters are too bored to eat a lot.

                      Now, a small but carefully controlled study offers a strong hint that maybe Atkins was right: People on low-carb, high-fat diets actually can eat more.

                      The study, directed by Penelope Greene of the Harvard School of Public Health and presented at a meeting here this week of the American Association for the Study of Obesity, found that people eating an extra 300 calories a day on a very low-carb regimen lost just as much during a 12-week study as those on a standard lowfat diet.

                      Over the course of the study, they consumed an extra 25,000 calories. That should have added up to about seven pounds. But for some reason, it did not.

                      "There does indeed seem to be something about a low-carb diet that says you can eat more calories and lose a similar amount of weight," Greene said.
                      A calorie just a calorie?

                      That strikes at one of the most revered beliefs in nutrition: A calorie is a calorie is a calorie. It does not matter whether they come from bacon or mashed potatoes; they all go on the waistline in just the same way.

                      Not even Greene says this settles the case, but some at the meeting found her report fascinating.

                      "A lot of our assumptions about a calorie is a calorie are being challenged," said Marlene Schwartz of Yale. "As scientists, we need to be open-minded."

                      Others, though, found the data hard to swallow.

                      "It doesn't make sense, does it?" said Barbara Rolls of Pennsylvania State University. "It violates the laws of thermodynamics. No one has ever found any miraculous metabolic effects."

                      In the study, 21 overweight volunteers were divided into three categories: Two groups were randomly assigned to either lowfat or low-carb diets with 1,500 calories for women and 1,800 for men; a third group was also low-carb but got an extra 300 calories a day.

                      The study was unique because all the food was prepared at an upscale Italian restaurant in Cambridge, Massachusetts, so researchers knew exactly what they ate. Most earlier studies simply sent people home with diet plans to follow as best they could.

                      Each afternoon, the volunteers picked up that evening's dinner, a bedtime snack and the next day's breakfast and lunch. Instead of lots of red meat and saturated fat, which many find disturbing about low-carb diets, these people ate mostly fish, chicken, salads, vegetables and unsaturated oils.

                      "This is not what people think of when they think about an Atkins diet," Greene said. Nevertheless, the Atkins organization agreed to pay for the research, though it had no input into the study's design, conduct or analysis.
                      Raising questions

                      Everyone's food looked similar but was cooked to different recipes. The low-carb meals were 5 percent carbohydrate, 15 percent protein and 65 percent fat. The rest got 55 percent carbohydrate, 15 percent protein and 30 percent fat.

                      In the end, everyone lost weight. Those on the lower-cal, low-carb regimen took off 23 pounds, while people who got the same calories on the lowfat approach lost 17 pounds. The big surprise, though, was that volunteers getting the extra 300 calories a day of low-carb food lost 20 pounds.

                      "It's very intriguing, but it raises more questions than it answers," said Gary Foster of the University of Pennsylvania. "There is lots of data to suggest this shouldn't be true."

                      Greene said she can only guess why the people getting the extra calories did so well. Maybe they burned up more calories digesting their food.

                      Dr. Samuel Klein of Washington University, the obesity organization's president, called the results "hard to believe" and said perhaps the people eating more calories also got more exercise or they were less apt to cheat because they were less hungry.

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