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  • #21
    Originally posted by DA1CATAS View Post
    ooo well of course i meant a younger more active jones... about 8 yerars ago. but yea your right .. now he'd just be too tired and un-active...

    Margarito?::hmm.. dont think his constant throwing would help?

    I knew people would like calzaghe and williams.. its a given. No Arce? power and quickness with the activity?

    and mayweather.. yea he's never strolled far from his style ever.
    Margarito's constant throwing would help anybody good facing him. You gotta really look at how these guys fight, it's far from what goes on in pro boxing. Notice how anyone trying to walk (or run) their man down gets schooled by counterpunching and footwork. 4x2 minutes is not enough time to walk a world class amateur down, and Margarito would dig his own grave trying to do it.

    Don't know about Arce. He'd be at a disadvantage, because it takes an acute awareness of what you need to do to get your punches registered by the judges. You have to drill that stuff again and again, to be succesful at it, at that level, and it's just very diffeent from what he's accustomed to.

    Look at Javier Molina, a good solid pro style American fighter. He got schooled so bad by Bulgarian Boris Georgiev because he didn't understand how to fight amateur style. He tried to walk him down, like any good American pro would, and that style just doesn't work. Sure Georgiev is good, but I saw him get a schooling like that, himself, a couple of months ago, by Frankie Gavin, so there are even better fighters out there.

    Look out for Mexican featherweight Reyes, he's very pro style as well. As soon as he meets a top fighter, he's gonna get a lesson, because it just doesn't work under am rules.

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    • #22
      You also have to consider that a lot of the guys you're watching at the Olympics are the Mayweather's and RJJ's of tomorrow. The reason it'll take them a few years to be top pro's is the exact same factors, only in reverse; they need to adapt the physical, technical, tactical abilities to a different style of fighting, more, and longer rounds.

      It's almost two different sports, and the top guys training the right way for one will be the best at it 95% of the time.

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      • #23
        surely a world class pro boxer with KO power, can KO a 17 yr old boy with a bodyshot?

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        • #24
          Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
          You also have to consider that a lot of the guys you're watching at the Olympics are the Mayweather's and RJJ's of tomorrow. The reason it'll take them a few years to be top pro's is the exact same factors, only in reverse; they need to adapt the physical, technical, tactical abilities to a different style of fighting, more, and longer rounds.

          It's almost two different sports, and the top guys training the right way for one will be the best at it 95% of the time.
          Hey, punch, who are your favorites to shine at the olympics this year, the guys with the future in pros that is?

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          • #25
            I thought this post would get you going Punchdrunk!

            well I tend to agree with you on this subject. But I dont think that the difference between Pro and amateur is as big as the difference between a long distance runner and a sprinter. Just looking at the two types of runners there is a huge difference.

            Pros can get away with alot more holding and pushing which would not be tolerated for a second in top amateur competition. So a pro who does that to his advantage couldnt in Amateur.

            By the way two Ecuadorian boxers made it through the first round, I am Australian (the Aussies arent doing well) but I want to see the Ecuadorians do well as it is my adopted country, Ecuador has only once won a medal at the olympics (in walking)!

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            • #26
              Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
              What looks sloppy to you is a completely different style of fighting, dictated by the short rounds, the scoring system, and the fact that they wear better padded gloves and head gear. They fight like that because it works, and if it looks sloppy to you, well, it's clear to me that you're missing a lot of subtleties in what goes on. Stay in your bubble though, by all means.
              that style of fighting would not work against a mayweather, cotto or any top pro boxer... it dont matter if its 1 minute rounds.. javier molina woulda got schooled by that kid in 3 minute rounds too.. i know its slightly different but not that much different in terms of pro champs cant beat these kids.. gimme a breaak

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              • #27
                personally, i think amature boxing should be either three or four three minute rounds. and it shouldn't have the whole three out of five judges 1 second push button scoring system. it should just be three judges scoring on a ten nine system. amature boxers coming out of the olympics shouldn't have to retool their fighting style for the pro's, the amature's should prepare them for the pro's.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                  You also have to consider that a lot of the guys you're watching at the Olympics are the Mayweather's and RJJ's of tomorrow. The reason it'll take them a few years to be top pro's is the exact same factors, only in reverse; they need to adapt the physical, technical, tactical abilities to a different style of fighting, more, and longer rounds.

                  It's almost two different sports, and the top guys training the right way for one will be the best at it 95% of the time.


                  Yea i can definitely understand that...

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by peewee1460 View Post
                    personally, i think amature boxing should be either three or four three minute rounds. and it shouldn't have the whole three out of five judges 1 second push button scoring system. it should just be three judges scoring on a ten nine system. amature boxers coming out of the olympics shouldn't have to retool their fighting style for the pro's, the amature's should prepare them for the pro's.
                    And that would be GREAT!!!!



                    Originally posted by P4PKING_2008 View Post
                    Calzaghe wouldn't be ALLOWED to fight in the amateurs. He slaps. He would keep getting told to punch but he just cant.
                    LOL......

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                    • #30
                      The best am's would beat alot of pro's. The guy did say world champs, which is impossible as they are under a different rule code. Even if they did, then of course most of the am's would lose but i bet a few who are pretty much professional am's would kick arse. Cubans would be the main one's but a few others would too as they are more suited to the AM format.

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