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  • #11
    Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
    The pro's aren't trained to fight the way you have to, to be effective in Olympic boxing. They wouldn't get the amount of KO's they're accustomed to because the fights are shorter, the gloves have more padding, and they wear helmets.

    It's like claiming a distance runner would beat a sprinter. Not in a sprint, he wouldn't.
    That been said tho most pro fought good amature backgrounds.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by msagrain View Post
      That been said tho most pro fought good amature backgrounds.
      Sure, but that was, in the cases of top pro's, at least 5, and more likely, 10 years ago. That's a lot of training to fight in another style/scoring system/ fight duration. That will definitely diminish their chances against the best am's who are fine tuned physically, technically, and tactically to fight in the most effective way for 4x2 minutes.

      If you turn it around, that is why someone like Yuriorkis Gamboa, who is definitely one of the most talented fighters out there, has to start out fighting 4 rounders, then 6 rounders, and so on. He has to adapt to the differences. So do the pro's, if they had to go back.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
        Sure, but that was, in the cases of top pro's, at least 5, and more likely, 10 years ago. That's a lot of training to fight in another style/scoring system/ fight duration. That will definitely diminish their chances against the best am's who are fine tuned physically, technically, and tactically to fight in the most effective way for 4x2 minutes.

        If you turn it around, that is why someone like Yuriorkis Gamboa, who is definitely one of the most talented fighters out there, has to start out fighting 4 rounders, then 6 rounders, and so on. He has to adapt to the differences. So do the pro's, if they had to go back.


        That post and the one about the sprinters makes alot of sense...Hard to even go against that.

        I think that is the answer that ends it... but of course some pros would still dominate the AM olympics.. The likes of : Roy Jones, Margarito, ARCE, Paul williams, Joe Calzaghe, Mostly because of their very active/unique styles...
        Mayweather could win one.. counts on the punches landed right.. and the counters help... vast skill over the AM fighters like jones.


        Those picks sound CRAZY anyone?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Trrmo View Post
          That is Les Darcy, one of the best middleweights ever.

          I think the pros wouldnt do that great because the top amateurs are superquick point scoring machines who fight only 4 intense rounds. Pros need to pace themselves more and train for endurance. Pros also can wear down their opponents over 10-12 rounds, hard to do in 4 four rounds.
          I'm impressed, I am a massive Darcy fan. Have read a few of his biographies and am doing a Sports History course with a historian who has written several historical pieces about the man. A very interesting story.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by DA1CATAS View Post
            That post and the one about the sprinters makes alot of sense...Hard to even go against that.

            I think that is the answer that ends it... but of course some pros would still dominate the AM olympics.. The likes of : Roy Jones, Margarito, ARCE, Paul williams, Joe Calzaghe, Mostly because of their very active/unique styles...
            Mayweather could win one.. counts on the punches landed right.. and the counters help... vast skill over the AM fighters like jones.


            Those picks sound CRAZY anyone?
            Roy Jones would do terribly at the age he is now (in fact he's to old to even be allowed to fight).

            Margarito wouldn't be able to catch the mobile guys at his weight.

            Paul Williams... Maybe, he's got a good reach for the weight, which is a big plus in the am's.

            Calzaghe... Maybe, he's kinda got an am style to a certain extent.

            Mayweather is the one I would believe in the most (though he failed to win gold when he was amateur).

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            • #16
              Random but i think Kostya Tszyu would have done great had he somehow gone back into amateur fighting, His style never really changed.

              Margarito would lose fights by a wide margin in the amateurs, Too slow and clumsy.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                Roy Jones would do terribly at the age he is now (in fact he's to old to even be allowed to fight).

                Margarito wouldn't be able to catch the mobile guys at his weight.

                Paul Williams... Maybe, he's got a good reach for the weight, which is a big plus in the am's.

                Calzaghe... Maybe, he's kinda got an am style to a certain extent.

                Mayweather is the one I would believe in the most (though he failed to win gold when he was amateur).
                ooo well of course i meant a younger more active jones... about 8 yerars ago. but yea your right .. now he'd just be too tired and un-active...

                Margarito?::hmm.. dont think his constant throwing would help?

                I knew people would like calzaghe and williams.. its a given. No Arce? power and quickness with the activity?

                and mayweather.. yea he's never strolled far from his style ever.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by DA1CATAS View Post
                  ooo well of course i meant a younger more active jones... about 8 yerars ago. but yea your right .. now he'd just be too tired and un-active...

                  Margarito?::hmm.. dont think his constant throwing would help?

                  I knew people would like calzaghe and williams.. its a given. No Arce? power and quickness with the activity?

                  and mayweather.. yea he's never strolled far from his style ever.
                  Calzaghe wouldn't be ALLOWED to fight in the amateurs. He slaps. He would keep getting told to punch but he just cant.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by PunchDrunk View Post
                    Roy Jones would do terribly at the age he is now (in fact he's to old to even be allowed to fight).

                    Margarito wouldn't be able to catch the mobile guys at his weight.

                    Paul Williams... Maybe, he's got a good reach for the weight, which is a big plus in the am's.

                    Calzaghe... Maybe, he's kinda got an am style to a certain extent.

                    Mayweather is the one I would believe in the most (though he failed to win gold when he was amateur).
                    Mayweather wouldnt get touched by any of these kids.. demetrius andrade looked very sloppy , alot of those kids look sloppy .. pros make u pay for your mistakes and sloppy fighting... Any top pro would beat the Amatuers, you guys are talking about champs fighting in the amatuers.. im sorry it wouldnt even be close... its like comparing colege football to professional..

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by JayWater39 View Post
                      Mayweather wouldnt get touched by any of these kids.. demetrius andrade looked very sloppy , alot of those kids look sloppy .. pros make u pay for your mistakes and sloppy fighting... Any top pro would beat the Amatuers, you guys are talking about champs fighting in the amatuers.. im sorry it wouldnt even be close... its like comparing colege football to professional..
                      What looks sloppy to you is a completely different style of fighting, dictated by the short rounds, the scoring system, and the fact that they wear better padded gloves and head gear. They fight like that because it works, and if it looks sloppy to you, well, it's clear to me that you're missing a lot of subtleties in what goes on. Stay in your bubble though, by all means.

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