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  • #21
    Originally posted by Gio View Post
    Whatever man, im assuming you never used any supplement before.

    I think you might be mistaking it for steriods. Supplements arent magic pills or anything like that.

    Creatine has been proven to reduce lactic acid buildup with a good cycle.
    Protein is used to rebuild broken down muscle after a workout and carbs are use to fuel the body after an intense work out.

    Maybe the man needs supplements because he's always on the go and doesnt always have time to sit down and have a meal.

    Your claim that muscle built with supplements is ludicrous.

    You must be a kid or an old school kind of guy. If the later is the case, thats cool but dont hate on people trying to better themselves with a different approach.
    Want me to name all the supplements I used?
    NO2
    M-Stak
    Viraloid
    Vitagro CGL
    Vitrix
    Phosphagen HP
    6-OXO
    Blast Cycle
    Esterfied
    2 Pumped

    ..and that's just to name a few.

    Sure I got good results, but then I'd get sick or go on vacation anywhere from a week to a month, and I'd come back feeling like a tiny little man. Some of those supplements I never finished because they were just pure ****. I haven't taken any supplements in over a year, and when I took a break for two weeks just recently, I felt just about the same (same size and strength) as when I came back. It took me about 5-10 minutes to get warmed up, but I was back at the same weights that I left off.

    hard earned muscle > supplemental muscle

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    • #22
      Originally posted by dario View Post
      Want me to name all the supplements I used?
      NO2
      M-Stak
      Viraloid
      Vitagro CGL
      Vitrix
      Phosphagen HP
      6-OXO
      Blast Cycle
      Esterfied
      2 Pumped

      ..and that's just to name a few.

      Sure I got good results, but then I'd get sick or go on vacation anywhere from a week to a month, and I'd come back feeling like a tiny little man. Some of those supplements I never finished because they were just pure ****. I haven't taken any supplements in over a year, and when I took a break for two weeks just recently, I felt just about the same (same size and strength) as when I came back. It took me about 5-10 minutes to get warmed up, but I was back at the same weights that I left off.

      hard earned muscle > supplemental muscle
      Sorry that your experiences were negative. Mine have been pretty damn good.
      It seems like you're always being derailed or on a break for too long.

      Two weeks off will put anyone back at the starting line.

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      • #23
        I take a multi-vitamin, creatine and protein shakes. I dont think i would be making the gains without them. I guess the real question is which supplements are good and work and which are just a waste on money.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Gio View Post
          Sorry that your experiences were negative. Mine have been pretty damn good.
          It seems like you're always being derailed or on a break for too long.

          Two weeks off will put anyone back at the starting line.
          Like I said, not taking supplements for over a year, my two week break felt like a day for my muscles. It was just a break, and my muscles didn't deflate or lose strength. But if I work out for 6 months with supplements, and then I take three weeks off, I lose a ton of weight. Like I said, they do help a lot, but in the long run they are a waste of money. Everyone takes breaks, and if they don't something will eventually give out.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Darkstar View Post
            I take a multi-vitamin, creatine and protein shakes. I dont think i would be making the gains without them. I guess the real question is which supplements are good and work and which are just a waste on money.

            i take the same, but thats not saying much, there are so many different kinds of creatine and protein not to mention blends of the two..

            i have discoverd optimum nutrition has the best taste as far as chocolate proteins... and includes amino acids and glutamine....i put another tablespoon of a liquid amino booster in all my shakes...

            nitro tech which is a popular protein/creatine combo is pretty dusgusting to drink in comparison..

            i take creakic pills cause i dont like the sugar that a lot of creatine powders have in them... cell tech for instance has 75 grams of pure dextrose sugar..

            so if you are going on a diet these are things to consider.... if youre starving yourself and hungry a lot you want shakes that you look forward to not that you have to choke down.

            i have taken and was not satisfied with:
            hydroxycut harcore
            gakic
            leukic
            nitro tech
            NO-explode

            i have taken and experie3nced good results with:
            max-4-men multi-vit
            creakic
            optimum nutrition protein w/ soy milk
            z-mass pm
            Nitrix NO-2 booster
            taraxatone (diuretic)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by dario View Post
              Everyone takes breaks, and if they don't something will eventually give out.
              True. But a week to two weeks is too damn long.

              3 days at the most is enough to recover from a hard workout.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by dario View Post
                Want me to name all the supplements I used?
                NO2
                M-Stak
                Viraloid
                Vitagro CGL
                Vitrix
                Phosphagen HP
                6-OXO
                Blast Cycle
                Esterfied
                2 Pumped

                ..and that's just to name a few.

                Sure I got good results, but then I'd get sick or go on vacation anywhere from a week to a month, and I'd come back feeling like a tiny little man. Some of those supplements I never finished because they were just pure ****. I haven't taken any supplements in over a year, and when I took a break for two weeks just recently, I felt just about the same (same size and strength) as when I came back. It took me about 5-10 minutes to get warmed up, but I was back at the same weights that I left off.

                hard earned muscle > supplemental muscle

                can you please describe what they are and what hey do?

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by dario View Post
                  Want me to name all the supplements I used?
                  NO2
                  M-Stak
                  Viraloid
                  Vitagro CGL
                  Vitrix
                  Phosphagen HP
                  6-OXO
                  Blast Cycle
                  Esterfied
                  2 Pumped

                  ..and that's just to name a few.

                  Sure I got good results, but then I'd get sick or go on vacation anywhere from a week to a month, and I'd come back feeling like a tiny little man. Some of those supplements I never finished because they were just pure ****. I haven't taken any supplements in over a year, and when I took a break for two weeks just recently, I felt just about the same (same size and strength) as when I came back. It took me about 5-10 minutes to get warmed up, but I was back at the same weights that I left off.

                  hard earned muscle > supplemental muscle
                  can you please describe what they are and what they do?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by leff View Post
                    can you please describe what they are and what they do?
                    you should go to www.bodybuilding.com and search it there, since they prolly sell all of it.

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                    • #30
                      hard earned muscle > supplemental muscle
                      And why is this? Muscle = Muscle as far as I'm aware? What's the difference between getting your protein through powder or through pasta, for example? That's a bull**** line generally said by ignorant people trying to justify their lack of knowledge of nutrition.

                      The problem with your supplements is that about half are forms of creatine, and the other half are testosterone boosters. Take time off creatine and yes, you will feel weaker, as you're used to your muscles been very hydrated and pumped through water retention...and testosterone boosters, of course you're going to lose some sense of power after this, it's testosterone :/

                      However, if you had a more sensible stack, with the base being protein with casein, and maybe some creatine and a few amino acids thrown on top, then you're results would have probably been twice as good and lasted twice as long.

                      supplemental muscle = hard earned muscle

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