how big are you and how much do you bench?

[Banderivets]

Uh...ok don't waste your time. I was hoping you humored me. I guess the answer to if you ever boxed is "no".

Every muscle in your arm is USED to some extent obviously...but the tricep is not a main factor in throwing punches whatsoever. When your fist lands on a target its affecting the front part of your arm, not the back...your wrist, forearms and biceps are taking the brunt of it. Go throw some hooks on a heavybag for an hour and see what is sore tomorrow...sure as hell aint gonna be your triceps.

Look at what weightlifting exercises you do to work out your triceps and see if that looks like anything close to what your arms would be doing in a punching motion.

First of all where did you get the idea that I never boxed?

Second of all, have you ever heard of a jab?

[dario]

Muscles ARE one directional. They always pull, they cant push.

Therefore when you throw a punch the vital muscle in the arm is the tricep, as it extends the arm.

You dont punch by pulling your arm back do you?

Both muscles are vital, however the tricep is the muscle thats actually resposible for extending the arm.

OMFG STFU
obviously you don't know much about boxing
and if you boxed the way you talk, you'd lose pretty much every round

NUMBER ONE POWER SOURCE IN BOXING: YOUR LEGS
number two: your core (abs)
then it just varies what punch you throw
tricep is never dominant

pulling is just important as pushing; you don't pull fast enough than you will get countered straight in the face
and also, the pull releases the other arm; the more pull (negative) you do, the more power the push (positive) will have
for example: the faster you pull back a right cross, the faster and stronger your left hook will be

[dario]

Uh...ok don't waste your time. I was hoping you humored me. I guess the answer to if you ever boxed is "no".

I agree; or at least he's never trained before because if he has he probably made a fool out of himself

[Banderivets]

OMFG STFU
obviously you don't know much about boxing
and if you boxed the way you talk, you'd lose pretty much every round

NUMBER ONE POWER SOURCE IN BOXING: YOUR LEGS
number two: your core (abs)
then it just varies what punch you throw
tricep is never dominant

pulling is just important as pushing; you don't pull fast enough than you will get countered straight in the face
and also, the pull releases the other arm; the more pull (negative) you do, the more power the push (positive) will have
for example: the faster you pull back a right cross, the faster and stronger your left hook will be

Why dont you shut the **** up you dumb ****?

Whats with this ****ing attitude on here?

Havent gotten laid lately?

Whose ****ing arguing here that you dont need biceps? Did I ****ing say that?

The only ****ing argument here is that when you extend your arm the muscle resposible is the tricep you dumb ****, or you have a different story?

You dont need Arnold like biceps to get the most out of your body boxing, your tricep always does the most work in any arm activity. Its ****ing proven, didnt they teach you that in community college? Whats muscle you work the most when you bench press? You are pulling back the weight of your forearm after throwing a jab, why would you need 18" biceps to do that?

Do you twist your body and extend your legs when you throw a jab? Do you? Must look like a moron doing it.


Your a gym trainer? Where did you get your license? The **** I hear come out if your mouth on protein supplimentation and now triceps is some of the most dumb **** I ever heard.

Since when do you use legs and abs to throw ARM PUNCHES ? When you throw an ARM PUNCH whats the most used muslce? Now dont try to be a smart ass cause a ****** knwos thats you still use your whole body to throw any punch, the emphasis here is on the most vital muscle in that activity?


Now go get your books and and come up with an intelligent reply as I dont have the whole day.

[Bucktown Beast]

First of all where did you get the idea that I never boxed?

Second of all, have you ever heard of a jab?

Because your analysis seems to be comprised of stuff which someone may assume. You are just going on observation and concluding that the tri is involved in punching. Its not.

What about a jab? Tri is not involved in that either. You are furthering my claim that you haven't done much boxing training. I have trained for years and can tell you with certainty that the biceps are without question the major part of the arm which is affected. As Dario points out tri is not dominant in any way shape or form in boxing. Like I said, doing a "hammering" motion is using the tri, but that motion is used only in Karate chops. When you punch you're not snapping outwards and away from your body, rather you're snapping inwards.

Bi = pulling
Tri = pushing

Punches are consistent with a pulling motion. A hook is like a sideways bicep curl.

[Trick]

[QUOTE=Bucktown Beast;2216990]

Bi = pulling
Tri = pushing
QUOTE]

That's more or less right, but it's not that simple. Triceps are important in getting especially a jab out fast. It also reduces flexion, making a more "solid" punch. Also, for everyone's reference, it's most likely the brachialis that you find buring, not the biceps. The biceps only really work when your wrist is supinated, which it almost never is, especially in boxing. Biceps keep your forearm stable in boxing. It's the brachialis that helps to pull those arms back.

So give the guy a break, I haven't been reading this whole thing, but it seems that all he said was that triceps are important, which they are. Not the most important muscle group by any means, but I can promise you that you do need them.

Peace,
Trick

Edit: I should mention that ya, the "coffee mug" hook (as opposed to the horizontal) does work the biceps a little more, as the forearm is more or less supinated. It's very different than a curl though.

[BrooklynBomber]

OMFG STFU
obviously you don't know much about boxing
and if you boxed the way you talk, you'd lose pretty much every round

NUMBER ONE POWER SOURCE IN BOXING: YOUR LEGS
number two: your core (abs)
then it just varies what punch you throw
tricep is never dominant
pulling is just important as pushing; you don't pull fast enough than you will get countered straight in the face
and also, the pull releases the other arm; the more pull (negative) you do, the more power the push (positive) will have
for example: the faster you pull back a right cross, the faster and stronger your left hook will be

I agree about abs, but not so with legs. With arm punchers( the guys who dont use a proper leg movement to properl their punches) their shoulders and more or less arm muscles work to generate power. Take example of Vitaly, he is an arm punchers and rarely puts his legs into a punch.

[-Antonio-]

The only time my biceps are sore is when I throw a lot of short hooks to the body. Because I dig up with it.

[dario]

Why dont you shut the **** up you dumb ****?

Whats with this ****ing attitude on here?

Havent gotten laid lately?

Whose ****ing arguing here that you dont need biceps? Did I ****ing say that?

The only ****ing argument here is that when you extend your arm the muscle resposible is the tricep you dumb ****, or you have a different story?

You dont need Arnold like biceps to get the most out of your body boxing, your tricep always does the most work in any arm activity. Its ****ing proven, didnt they teach you that in community college? Whats muscle you work the most when you bench press? You are pulling back the weight of your forearm after throwing a jab, why would you need 18" biceps to do that?

Do you twist your body and extend your legs when you throw a jab? Do you? Must look like a moron doing it.


Your a gym trainer? Where did you get your license? The **** I hear come out if your mouth on protein supplimentation and now triceps is some of the most dumb **** I ever heard.

Since when do you use legs and abs to throw ARM PUNCHES ? When you throw an ARM PUNCH whats the most used muslce? Now dont try to be a smart ass cause a ****** knwos thats you still use your whole body to throw any punch, the emphasis here is on the most vital muscle in that activity?


Now go get your books and and come up with an intelligent reply as I dont have the whole day.

I always move when I throw a jab, but I don't turn. Every other punch I move my legs and turn; just like how you should. Do you just stand in place when you throw your jab? You don't move at all? You won't get **** power out of that.

My protein advice dumb? Who are you to say that?

[realheavyhands]

i was 240 becnhin 385
inclining 315

i dont lift nomore at all it dont help at all