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  • GunStar
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    #21
    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
    His stamina was not better in that fight at all. Maybe it seemed like it because he wasn't fighting Wlad, who seriously sapped his strength in the clinches because he's so damn strong himself. No one gains stamina from weighing 30 lbs over their optimum weight.

    Peter at 230 lbs would beat Toney IMO.
    Lol, you know very well that Peter will never be at 230.

    BTW Peter stamina was much better in the Toney fight then it was in the Wlad fight, also the Toney fight was a much more action fight then the Wlad fight. Too much holding in the Wlad fight!

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    • Kid Achilles
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      #22
      Spin job?

      Peter had little respect for Toney's power early on, unlike in the Wlad fight, and because of this he threw more punches. He also didn't have the extremely physically strong Wlad holding him every time he was within range. If you actually think Peter at 260 lbs was in better shape than he was at a lighter weight vs. Wlad, you are an idiot. If you fail to understand how Wlad's clinching tired him out, you are blind.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles
        Spin job?

        Peter had little respect for Toney's power early on, unlike in the Wlad fight, and because of this he threw more punches. He also didn't have the extremely physically strong Wlad holding him every time he was within range. If you actually think Peter at 260 lbs was in better shape than he was at a lighter weight vs. Wlad, you are an idiot. If you fail to understand how Wlad's clinching tired him out, you are blind.


        Nothing you can say is going to change the fact Peter threw at a career high rate in the Toney fight.

        He was in good condition despite his physical shape, and the fact you think the two are tied hand in hand only illustrates how little you know.

        Toney was in terrible shape at a high weight vs Guinn, and threw 1000+ punches.

        Just because Peter looked soft doesn't mean he wasn't in condition, and that was clear with his work rate.

        They obviously worked on that for the fight, and it's the only reason he wasn't shut out.

        As usual, you have no idea what you're talking about.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Gunstar1
          Lol, you know very well that Peter will never be at 230.

          BTW Peter stamina was much better in the Toney fight then it was in the Wlad fight, also the Toney fight was a much more action fight then the Wlad fight. Too much holding in the Wlad fight!
          I have to disagree, Peter was gassed by the fifth round, he looked like he was about to pass out (reminded me of Wlad's 5th round against Brewster). If you watch the fight again, you'll see him breathing with his mouth wide open and stumbling around the ring.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Kid Achilles
            Spin job?

            Peter had little respect for Toney's power early on, unlike in the Wlad fight, and because of this he threw more punches. He also didn't have the extremely physically strong Wlad holding him every time he was within range. If you actually think Peter at 260 lbs was in better shape than he was at a lighter weight vs. Wlad, you are an idiot. If you fail to understand how Wlad's clinching tired him out, you are blind.
            Peter didn't have any respect for Wlad's punches too! Peter was not the one that was holding! All I know that Peter threw more punches in had better stamina being 10lbs heavier. You failed!

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              #26
              Originally posted by boxing2005
              I have to disagree, Peter was gassed by the fifth round, he looked like he was about to pass out (reminded me of Wlad's 5th round against Brewster). If you watch the fight again, you'll see him breathing with his mouth wide open and stumbling around the ring.
              I do agree with you about the 5th round, but he got his energy back in the rest of the fight.

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              • Kid Achilles
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                #27
                Anyone who doesn't realize that clinching tires you out, especially getting clinched by a taller man who leans on you, knows nothing about fighting.

                Clinching Toney was a cakewalk for Peter. Getting hit by Toney was a cakewalk for Peter. Getting clinched by Wlad and hit by Wlad clearly took it out of him.

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                  #28
                  Regardless of the bickering, neither of these two guys are the future of the heavyweight division.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                    Anyone who doesn't realize that clinching tires you out, especially getting clinched by a taller man who leans on you, knows nothing about fighting.

                    Clinching Toney was a cakewalk for Peter. Getting hit by Toney was a cakewalk for Peter. Getting clinched by Wlad and hit by Wlad clearly took it out of him.
                    Why don't you try it out yourself, go clinch with your friend for 5 minutes and then go throw some punches for 5 minutes! You failed once again!

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                      Anyone who doesn't realize that clinching tires you out, especially getting clinched by a taller man who leans on you, knows nothing about fighting.

                      Clinching Toney was a cakewalk for Peter. Getting hit by Toney was a cakewalk for Peter. Getting clinched by Wlad and hit by Wlad clearly took it out of him.
                      You're a ******.

                      The clinching didn't start heavilly until the 5th and after, when Wlad was clinching for dear life.

                      By that time, the solo act of half heartedly going after Wlad in the 5th had Peter outright gassed. He shot his load in that round and had nothing left.

                      Doesn't matter what he weighs or what he looks like. It's the condition training he puts in in camp.

                      He was in much better shape for the last Toney fight, and threw at a way higher weight as a result.

                      Even with that said it still wasn't close to enough.

                      Toney's going to come in better shape in this next fight and will beat Peter even more clearly than he did last time.

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