why isnt holyfield the greatest p4p fighter ever?

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  • BmoreBrawler
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    #11
    Originally posted by versatile2k6
    sugar ray robinson had more. so whats your point
    Because Ray Robinson only lost 10% of his fights while Holyfield lost 20%.

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    • butterfly1964
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      #12
      Originally posted by versatile2k6
      ok why isnt he top 5 greatest hws. due to opponents he fought,style and longevity
      Top 15 yes. Top 5, .......Big no!

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      • Verstyle
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        #13
        Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
        Because Ray Robinson only lost 10% of his fights while Holyfield lost 20%.
        a big 10% more. plus holyfield lost most of his fights past his prime

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        • BmoreBrawler
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          #14
          actually 10% is a lot more when we're talking percentages. Ray Robinson was like 173-19.

          Does a fighter's career end past his prime? The same can be said for Ray by the way.

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          • Dorian
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            #15
            I agree but if he retired before the toney fight he would've been the best for sure(top 10 atleast) they guy foguht the best opponents EVER no matter what you say... he domolished Tyson....beat foreman.... had an unforgetiable trilogy with Bowe... and is a 4 time champ... he deserves more credit than some people give him

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              #16
              Originally posted by Dorian
              I agree but if he retired before the toney fight he would've been the best for sure(top 10 atleast) they guy foguht the best opponents EVER no matter what you say... he domolished Tyson....beat foreman.... had an unforgetiable trilogy with Bowe... and is a 4 time champ... he deserves more credit than some people give him
              Will I had him losing all 3 fights against Bowe and that was his prime.

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              • shortright
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                #17
                the losses to bowe and michael moore plus the wins of tyson are overtated tyson didnt have much left at all anybody decent wouldo of beat him

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by shortright
                  the losses to bowe and michael moore plus the wins of tyson are overtated tyson didnt have much left at all anybody decent wouldo of beat him
                  how can you say he didn't have much left? he only had 1 loss comming in the fight(i belive it was only 1) and was no where near close of being done..
                  but that's just my opinion...

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                  • GunStar
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                    #19
                    I will like to add that the Holyman was the best Cruiserweight I've ever seen and for a small HW he fought big and this is the #1 reason that I respect the Holyman.

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                      #20
                      Hes top 10 in my book. He beat a prime Moorer, a good Foreman, prime Mercer, Tyson (he was still very good and dangerous), and other tough opponents.

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