why isnt holyfield the greatest p4p fighter ever?

[!! Mr. Soprano]

Because Holyman was never a P4P type of a boxer. He will never make any of my list for sure!

And what is the type for a P4P? Humor us plz





Bottom line,

Holyfield, easy, has the top 10 resume of all time

[Abe Attell]

going great in 2 big weightclasses should give u more p4p credit

I am not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet, but Heavyweights don't have weight limits, thus making it harder. P4P talk is for *******, Holy was the man. You can't compare a man that fights at Heavyweight with someone who is locked in by weight limits.


This is why I give Chris Bryd a lot of respect... plus did anybody realize how great Chris's chin was?

Just look the shots he took against Ike Ibeabuchi and Wladimir Klitscho. Yeah, he ended up knocked out, by by TKO. The guy had the balls/heart to get back up and give the judge a "WTF" you stopping this **** for look.

People love to talk about Marciano's chin, but I wonder what would have happened if he took those same shots, just a thought

[Verstyle]

I am not sure if anybody has mentioned this yet, but Heavyweights don't have weight limits, thus making it harder. P4P talk is for *******, Holy was the man. You can't compare a man that fights at Heavyweight with someone who is locked in by weight limits.


This is why I give Chris Bryd a lot of respect... plus did anybody realize how great Chris's chin was?

Just look the shots he took against Ike Ibeabuchi and Wladimir Klitscho. Yeah, he ended up knocked out, by by TKO. The guy had the balls/heart to get back up and give the judge a "WTF" you stopping this **** for look.

People love to talk about Marciano's chin, but I wonder what would have happened if he took those same shots, just a thought

he still moved up in weight class he shouldnt be in

[Abe Attell]

My point being: Holyfield is above other so called "P4P" fighters because he was fighting fighters that could out-weigh him by a lot, especially from his original. Just look at the Bowe fight or Lewis fight, Holy was out-weighed more than most "P4P" fighters in history. I say most because
Sam Langford fought Heavyweights, so don't forget about that.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Holyfield was good, and did have some good fights, but I don't consider him top5 (top10 maybe, and should be top15)... He fought an old but still Dangerous Foreman and that was a hell of a fight, and he fought a Tyson that was not all that good....He did have good opponents, but I just don't condisder him top5 material...

I wish I could've seen a younger (heavier) Holyfield v a young tyson...

[TheHoff'sGhost]

i rate him as a top 10 heavy

and you could argue that he deserves a top 20 all time p4p slot

[TheEvilSaint]

its hard to be considerd the best p4p fighter ever when you dont beat the best of ur era. it makes it even harder when ur era is the worst in history for the division that you fight in.

[THE REAL NINJA]

Without a doubt Holyfield is one of the best heavys of all time and he is the best cruiser of all time . A few years ago The Ring mag had him at # 3 all time HV but i'd put him somewhere around 5-7. As far as P4P I do think that he is a great P4P fighter but the competition for P4P greatness is so high it makes him fall into the late parts of top 100. Maybe if he would have won a belt at LH then done everything else he would have been higher .

[THE REAL NINJA]

its hard to be considerd the best p4p fighter ever when you dont beat the best of ur era. it makes it even harder when ur era is the worst in history for the division that you fight in.

bah Lewis,Foreman,Tyson,Bowe,Golota,Holmes, + Pinklon Thomas,Berbick,Briggs,Tills,Bonecrusher Smith, Buster, ...it really was not that bad most of the fighters could have been great in any other era it's just that the top 5-7 fighters were a mis-match for the rest .

[tito yuca]

Holyfield decisioned a Foreman who was 17 years older than when Ali KO'd him in 8, and some are saying he's the best HW ever? Get the **** outta here.