Aaron Pryor vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 140, who wins?

[Mr. Ryan]

Its the truth though, and everyone knows it.

No, some people think it. Nobody can come forward with irrefutable evidence that Pryor took steroids. If you can present me with that, then we'll see. Until then, Pryor remains a fighter who was undefeated in his prime.

[Mr. Ryan]

Let's make your comparison complete:

if Mayweather, like Pep, ended in a plane crash that almost killed him, was forced to a long layoff to recover as much as he could (and remember we are talking about 1947 here, medicine was not where it was now), and then fought pryor, then pryor would probably beat him, like saddler beat pep.

It's the principle, not the events around it. Would Saddler beat Pep if he boxed him? Probably not.

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It's the principle, not the events around it. Would Saddler beat Pep if he boxed him? Probably not.

sure, would Saddler beat Pep if had he been in good health? probably not

[Mr. Ryan]

sure, would Saddler beat Pep if had he been in good health? probably not

I stand to think so. Saddler was perhaps the biggest puncher in featherweight history, maybe only Wilfredo Gomez is in that range. Saddler did exactly as he had to, he made a slick cutey fight a physical fight. That's what he did because that's what the situation called for. He won 75 percent of their encounters, in one of them he even made Pep quit.

[K-DOGG]

Willie Pep in his prime was considered too slick and smart a fighter to be contended with. And yes, if you were foolish enough to trade jabs and try to fight conventionally with him, you didn't have a shot.

All of that changed when a rough and rugged brawler by the name of Sandy Saddler jumped in on his chest and beat the living champion**** out of him. Saddler knew that fighting a technical fight with a technical wizard leads to a technical mismatch. Instead, he went out there with fists, headbutts, thumbs in the eyes, and whatever he could to take the master out of his comfort zone, winning 3 out of 4 of their encounters.

Aaron Pryor, like Saddler, was an unconventional slugger who didn't do too much posturing. He went right out there and had one thing on his mind: Kick your ass. Aside for a never say die attitude, Pryor also possessed some serious gifts. He was quick, he had a brilliant amateur background, he could punch to high heaven, and he never stopped winging them shots.

The prototype for how to lose to Mayweather is simple, stay on the outside and wait on the quicker man. Pryor wouldn't do that. Pryor would jump in on him and keep throwing punches at high impact and blinding velocity all night, daring his man to counter him. It would be a very entertaining fight with 2 well conditioned determined fighters, but Pryor would be too capable of piercing Mayweather's shield. I'd go with Pryor by a knockout late.

"champion****" LOL!!!! Nice.

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I stand to think so. Saddler was perhaps the biggest puncher in featherweight history, maybe only Wilfredo Gomez is in that range. Saddler did exactly as he had to, he made a slick cutey fight a physical fight. That's what he did because that's what the situation called for. He won 75 percent of their encounters, in one of them he even made Pep quit.

yes and in all their encounters he faced a fighter who almost died in a plane crash, who was cured with the technologies of 1947.

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my point is that. sure you want to make a slickster fight a phyisical fight.

and it is a lot easier to do so if the slickster is maimed

[-EX-]

Pryor would win if Floyd's defense couldn't stop him. I haven't seen enough of Pryor to really say. I think Floyd would really have to dig deep and expand a lot of energy to win against Pryor. I've seen some of the Arguello fight and it looks Aaron throws a lot of punches.

No way do I see anyone getting TKOed. I think it would be a close fight. I doubt Pryor would destroy Floyd or anything like that.

And then there's that black bottle...lol

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Pryor would win if Floyd's defense couldn't stop him. I haven't seen enough of Pryor to really say. I think Floyd would really have to dig deep and expand a lot of energy to win against Pryor. I've seen some of the Arguello fight and it looks Aaron throws a lot of punches.

No way do I see anyone getting TKOed. I think it would be a close fight. I doubt Pryor would destroy Floyd or anything like that.

And then there's that black bottle...lol

Pryor would for surely take floyd to waters he has never been into, so for me it is impossible to make a prediction. From the Arguello fight we know Pryor has that extra willpower in him to get him out of a losing situation, dose floyd have it? we dont know

seeing floyd fight hatton can hint at how floyd can deal with pressure AND speed, a combination he did not face yet. (not saying hatton is good or equal or worse or anything compared to the hawk)

but the real problem is that I want to see mayweather in serious difficulty and see if he has the heart, the hunger, the cool head to come out on top.

Until then its impossible to compare him with that special class of fighters (the "greats"), with which we already know he belongs to in terms of skills and talent, but we have a question mark on heart where the "greats" have a big !.

I dont consider pryor in that echelon of fighters, but he is stylewise a tough cookie for someone with mayweather's style.

[Mr. Ryan]

my point is that. sure you want to make a slickster fight a phyisical fight.

and it is a lot easier to do so if the slickster is maimed

So do we diminish the achievements of Saddler, or put an asterisk there? The way I see it, Saddler fought the correct fight and won. Keep in mind, Pep was hardly diminished as a fighter. He had only 1 loss leading up to the Saddler fights. You can't take away what Saddler did, he had balls.