Aaron Pryor vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 140, who wins?

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  • wmute
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    #31
    Originally posted by SnoopySmurf
    I have the fight.
    So do i, and it did not seem to me like pryor decided to box arguello and then took him out. His comeback was a bit more dramatic and unexpected than that and it did not involve a huge display a boxing skills.

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      #32
      Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
      ..................what?
      what part do i have to explain?

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        #33
        Originally posted by Cletus Funk
        You put up a hell of an argument but we'll have to agree to differ.

        Credit to you though, you usually just go for "pwned" and then run a mile.
        Actully I have never ever done that.
        What are you talking about?

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          #34
          Originally posted by GEOFFHAYES
          Pryor's reputation is based mostly on wins over Cervantes and a faded former featherweight Arguello. Mayweather would pick up the early rounds, it's difficult to see how he couldn't. DuJuan Johnson did well for four or five rounds against Pryor. And Norman Goins did very well against Pryor back in 1979. I just don't think Pryor has ever fought anybody with near the speed of a 140lb Mayweather, the Gatti fight is speed, speed, speed as well as skills, just blinding speed. Antonio Cervantes had seen better days, and as great as Arguello was, he just didn't have the speed of a Mayweather. Aaron is hittable, and you don't want to be hittable against Floyd Mayweather because he can maneuver himself before releasing so that he'll be almost instantly in position to roll and evade after releases.

          I don't see Pryor winning this, he was awesome, a machine but Mayweather is just something else. If it was judged on workrate then maybe Pryor would win every round, but fights shouldn't be judged on workrate. The objective is to hit and not get hit and Pryor would bring the best out of Mayweather which is a scarey thought. I actually see Mayweather leading off then making Pryor miss more so than looking to make him miss then counter, because he's smart enough not to give that beast momentum. Pryor had a very good jab, but cannot quite match Mayweather with left hands. Pryor was very fast, but Mayweather's allaround speed of hand, foot, body and thought is on another level.

          Can't see past Mayweather. Sorry.
          A very good arguement. I disagree; but it's a good arguement none the less....and Eubank wasn't even involved.

          Props.

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            #35
            Originally posted by wmute
            So do i, and it did not seem to me like pryor decided to box arguello and then took him out. His comeback was a bit more dramatic and unexpected than that and it did not involve a huge display a boxing skills.
            Aaron was brawling in the first part of the fight and tagging Arguello good. After a while, Arguello began to connect more often and was turning the fight in his favor. Then Aaron changed tactics, IMO, was boxing rather than brawling. He began to connect, but Arguello caught him with a couple of good neck snapping counters. But Aaron stayed with him and caught him good and drove him into the ropes. It was mercifully stopped.

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              #36
              Pryor was also on roids, so that counts for something.

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                #37
                Willie Pep in his prime was considered too slick and smart a fighter to be contended with. And yes, if you were foolish enough to trade jabs and try to fight conventionally with him, you didn't have a shot.

                All of that changed when a rough and rugged brawler by the name of Sandy Saddler jumped in on his chest and beat the living champion**** out of him. Saddler knew that fighting a technical fight with a technical wizard leads to a technical mismatch. Instead, he went out there with fists, headbutts, thumbs in the eyes, and whatever he could to take the master out of his comfort zone, winning 3 out of 4 of their encounters.

                Aaron Pryor, like Saddler, was an unconventional slugger who didn't do too much posturing. He went right out there and had one thing on his mind: Kick your ass. Aside for a never say die attitude, Pryor also possessed some serious gifts. He was quick, he had a brilliant amateur background, he could punch to high heaven, and he never stopped winging them shots.

                The prototype for how to lose to Mayweather is simple, stay on the outside and wait on the quicker man. Pryor wouldn't do that. Pryor would jump in on him and keep throwing punches at high impact and blinding velocity all night, daring his man to counter him. It would be a very entertaining fight with 2 well conditioned determined fighters, but Pryor would be too capable of piercing Mayweather's shield. I'd go with Pryor by a knockout late.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by PBF34
                  Pryor was also on roids, so that counts for something.
                  That cannot be admissable into a structured conversation because their is no documented proof or capable witnesses to atest to that statement.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                    That cannot be admissable into a structured conversation because their is no documented proof or capable witnesses to atest to that statement.
                    Its the truth though, and everyone knows it.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Asian Sensation
                      Willie Pep in his prime was considered too slick and smart a fighter to be contended with. And yes, if you were foolish enough to trade jabs and try to fight conventionally with him, you didn't have a shot.

                      All of that changed when a rough and rugged brawler by the name of Sandy Saddler jumped in on his chest and beat the living champion**** out of him. Saddler knew that fighting a technical fight with a technical wizard leads to a technical mismatch. Instead, he went out there with fists, headbutts, thumbs in the eyes, and whatever he could to take the master out of his comfort zone, winning 3 out of 4 of their encounters.

                      Aaron Pryor, like Saddler, was an unconventional slugger who didn't do too much posturing. He went right out there and had one thing on his mind: Kick your ass. Aside for a never say die attitude, Pryor also possessed some serious gifts. He was quick, he had a brilliant amateur background, he could punch to high heaven, and he never stopped winging them shots.

                      The prototype for how to lose to Mayweather is simple, stay on the outside and wait on the quicker man. Pryor wouldn't do that. Pryor would jump in on him and keep throwing punches at high impact and blinding velocity all night, daring his man to counter him. It would be a very entertaining fight with 2 well conditioned determined fighters, but Pryor would be too capable of piercing Mayweather's shield. I'd go with Pryor by a knockout late.
                      Let's make your comparison complete:

                      if Mayweather, like Pep, ended in a plane crash that almost killed him, was forced to a long layoff to recover as much as he could (and remember we are talking about 1947 here, medicine was not where it was now), and then fought pryor, then pryor would probably beat him, like saddler beat pep.

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