Aaron Pryor vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. at 140, who wins?

[Mr. Ryan]

Pryor would for surely take floyd to waters he has never been into, so for me it is impossible to make a prediction. From the Arguello fight we know Pryor has that extra willpower in him to get him out of a losing situation, dose floyd have it? we dont know

seeing floyd fight hatton can hint at how floyd can deal with pressure AND speed, a combination he did not face yet. (not saying hatton is good or equal or worse or anything compared to the hawk)

but the real problem is that I want to see mayweather in serious difficulty and see if he has the heart, the hunger, the cool head to come out on top.

Until then its impossible to compare him with that special class of fighters (the "greats"), with which we already know he belongs to in terms of skills and talent, but we have a question mark on heart where the "greats" have a big !.

I dont consider pryor in that echelon of fighters, but he is stylewise a tough cookie for someone with mayweather's style.

Hatton would simply wade into Mayweather's range, he'd be a target. He doesn't have any mystery or speed that would throw Floyd off. There is no real competitive contest there IMO.

Pryor is to my estimation the best 140 pounder who ever fought. That Pryor has that distinction and is a HOF'er, I do consider him to be the top elite kind of fighter.

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I don't see Floyd having too much problem with Hatton either.

[amagnin]

I would like to reserve judgment to see how Floyd deals with the next 18 months of his career...it will make or break him in terms of being a truly "all time great" and not just great. Frankly, as impressed as I am by Floyd's skill and the fact that he never lost early in his career while taking on tough competition, I simply don't know that much about Floyd at 140. He beat 3fighters at 140...Henry Brussles, DeMarcus Corley and Arturo Gatti. noneof these guys are even a "good" fighter in terms of boxing history. Meanwhile Pryor fought most of his career at 140 and beat 2 (at least) "good" fighters (Arguello and Cervantes). I guess my point is that it is hard to tell what would happen because Floyd is somewhat untested at this weight. Also, I know Floyd is in superior condition, but do you think he could go 15? Judging from what I have seen, I think Pryor takes a close decision.

[wmute]

So do we diminish the achievements of Saddler, or put an asterisk there? The way I see it, Saddler fought the correct fight and won. Keep in mind, Pep was hardly diminished as a fighter. He had only 1 loss leading up to the Saddler fights. You can't take away what Saddler did, he had balls.

yes we do. not just me or you. many boxing historians do.

it is not like the guy *maybe* had some psychological problems. we are not talking tyson type of excuses here. we are talking about a fighter who almost dies in a plane crash (injuring his legs in the process), heals (again in 1947, medicine in general and moreso sport medicine was not what it is 60 years later) and gets back to the ring.

No one says Pep wold have just blown Saddler out of the water in his prime, but Pep was not the same after the plane crash.

But yes of course, Saddler fought the right fight, no one is taking that away from him.

[wmute]

I would like to reserve judgment to see how Floyd deals with the next 18 months of his career...it will make or break him in terms of being a truly "all time great" and not just great. Frankly, as impressed as I am by Floyd's skill and the fact that he never lost early in his career while taking on tough competition, I simply don't know that much about Floyd at 140. He beat 3fighters at 140...Henry Brussles, DeMarcus Corley and Arturo Gatti. noneof these guys are even a "good" fighter in terms of boxing history. Meanwhile Pryor fought most of his career at 140 and beat 2 (at least) "good" fighters (Arguello and Cervantes). I guess my point is that it is hard to tell what would happen because Floyd is somewhat untested at this weight. Also, I know Floyd is in superior condition, but do you think he could go 15? Judging from what I have seen, I think Pryor takes a close decision.

yes in terms of competition 140 is a class where mayweather did not do anything special.

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Hatton would simply wade into Mayweather's range, he'd be a target. He doesn't have any mystery or speed that would throw Floyd off. There is no real competitive contest there IMO.

Pryor is to my estimation the best 140 pounder who ever fought. That Pryor has that distinction and is a HOF'er, I do consider him to be the top elite kind of fighter.

Hatton has speed, variety of punches and ridiculous stamina, all of JuyJuy's ravings are not out of point there. and he is very fast in moving in and out (especially in... lol)... I think his toolbox is a pretty good toolbox if oyu have to share a ring with mayw.

Pryor is HOFer no doubt.

I disagree with him being the best 140e ever. I dont think he could have beaten Barney Ross, very doubtful he could beat Locche, and Loi might be a problem too (although my evaluation of Loi comes only from reading).

Pryor is IMO slightly overrated, which is normal for a fighter with his style and charisma.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Pryor is rately highly and rightly so, not in the class of a Kostya Tszyu but he was Great nonetheless.

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Pryor is rately highly and rightly so, not in the class of a Kostya Tszyu but he was Great nonetheless.

so juy. what's your all time top5 at 140?

[Parody]

Pryor was a beast and is an ATG...

but he didnt have great defence and floyd would be too quick for him.

Prime Pryor vs Prime Floyd - Floyd by UD, but would be competitive.

[krazyx19]

Pryor is rately highly and rightly so, not in the class of a Kostya Tszyu but he was Great nonetheless.

How can you say Tszyu is in a class above Pryor?