morales stil 142

[ReadyUp]

?? Juan has quick hands, what you talkin about?

Juan does have decent hand speed, but he doesn't have the punch to hurt Pac.

Can Pac hurt the Baby Bull at 135 though???

This one might come down to stamina and work rate.

[ReadyUp]

nah I mean i see him pull back his punches slow sometimes. it has nothing to do with handspeed, bro. it's just something i've picked up on. Miguel Cotto's brother tagged him good a couple times and I think pac would do the same and follow up with the "manila ice" right hand.

Very true.

[JOM'S]

Watch the fight again, Morales was ahead before fading down the stretch. (Due to weight AND some good body work by Pac)

The fight was closer than most remember.

i have to agree with you here bro, the fight was a lot closer than most people remember ...

I already know the outcome when i have watched the fight, but if I would have watched the fight not knowing the outcome, i would have been on the seat of my pants up to the time Erik went down, honestly it was only in round nine that it was obvious that PAC was going to take it...

how about you bro, at what point of the fight did you think that EM was going to loose and and did you see that he was going to loose that big?

[Smokin']

I think it was around the 8th round when Pac was starting to take over. I think I remember having it even or Pac up by one round coming up to the 9th round.

[Bogler]

it was the during the 6th, very obvious.

[ReadyUp]

i have to agree with you here bro, the fight was a lot closer than most people remember ...

I already know the outcome when i have watched the fight, but if I would have watched the fight not knowing the outcome, i would have been on the seat of my pants up to the time Erik went down, honestly it was only in round nine that it was obvious that PAC was going to take it...

how about you bro, at what point of the fight did you think that EM was going to loose and and did you see that he was going to loose that big?

I started to get real nervous around rounds 7,8, and 9. Every time he would get hit I would seriously cringe because I could see that Pac's shots were effecting him. I'm not sure if I thought he was going to knock him out they way he did, but Pac def was bringing the heat having visibly rocked Erik a couple times leading up to the final rounds.

I've said before, that I thought Manny fought like a complete fighter in their rematch.

[JOM'S]

Who's still there at lightweight...

You got Julio Diaz (he would school Pac), Casamayor (ditto), Juan Diaz (he would schizool pac also) and yeah. Pac's ****ed if he moves up to lightweight.

pac has to close 130 first before giving a thought to fight at 135 ...

but IMHO school is a strong word, casa is to big, julio i havent seen him, juan and chavez will be a barnburner ...

[Smokin']

pac has to close 130 first before giving a thought to fight at 135 ...

but IMHO school is a strong word, casa is to big, julio i havent seen him, juan and chavez will be a barnburner ...

You're right school is a strong word. I do think Casa would SCHOOL Pac...stop him late. Think about it ... Pac wouldn't have his southpaw advantage, he'd be fighting a crafty dirty fighter who has really good boxing skill and can punch.

Jesus Chavez is way too big and strong for Pac. It would be fun to watch for a few rounds but Chavez' work rate would take over Pac...Pac's a ****ing midget compared to this guy.

Juan Diaz - Pac is pick'em, IMO.

Julio Diaz - Pac I just think Julio has the style to beat him. He is more of a boxer puncher but the dude can really really crack. I think he would hurt Pac.

[JOM'S]

I think it was around the 8th round when Pac was starting to take over. I think I remember having it even or Pac up by one round coming up to the 9th round.

it was the during the 6th, very obvious.

I started to get real nervous around rounds 7,8, and 9. Every time he would get hit I would seriously cringe because I could see that Pac's shots were effecting him. I'm not sure if I thought he was going to knock him out they way he did, but Pac def was bringing the heat having visibly rocked Erik a couple times leading up to the final rounds.

I've said before, that I thought Manny fought like a complete fighter in their rematch.

aside from round 10, round six was the best round for Pac against Erik, although EM looked bad at the end of round 6, he came back strong and storming at the beggining of the 7th and 8th making it a nail bitting rounds for me, only thing was Manny getting the better end of the exchanges at the latter part of those rounds, for me only during at round 9, i was convinced that manny will take it ...

[JOM'S]

You're right school is a strong word. I do think Casa would SCHOOL Pac...stop him late. Think about it ... Pac wouldn't have his southpaw advantage, he'd be fighting a crafty dirty fighter who has really good boxing skill and can punch.

Jesus Chavez is way too big and strong for Pac. It would be fun to watch for a few rounds but Chavez' work rate would take over Pac...Pac's a ****ing midget compared to this guy.

Juan Diaz - Pac is pick'em, IMO.

Julio Diaz - Pac I just think Julio has the style to beat him. He is more of a boxer puncher but the dude can really really crack. I think he would hurt Pac.

I understand Casas case, he is way to big and like what you said DIRTY...

i won't argue your points because to me pac has to face the big guys and big hitters at 130 first, before i can make any justification on what he can do at 135 ...

but one question, i seen chavez when he fought Erik, i dont think chavez is to big?

and why there is no love for the baby bull?? is it because he can't really punch? IMHO chavez vs diaz will be a great fight if it ever happen ...