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    morales stil 142

    Morales still overweight for duel with Pacman

    The Philippine Star 10/22/2006

    Can he really make the weight?

    While he felt "unbelievably strong" after weighing in at 142 lbs in Mexico City yesterday, Erik Morales’ chances of making the 130 lb limit for his Nov. 18 battle with Manny Pacquiao has remained in question.

    As mandated by the World Boxing Council, the three-time world champion from Mexico was weighed a month before the fight, and was allowed to weigh no more than 143 lbs.

    Morales tipped the scales at the Melia Hotel in Mexico City, clad only in striped boxing shorts, and in the presence of his father-trainer Jose Morales and WBC representative Mauricio Sulaiman.

    Morales weighed 142 lbs. He now has exactly 27 days to shed off 12 lbs. While making the 130 lb limit is still possible, how he would remain in good condition climbing the ring is the big question.

    Under the fight contract for the third and final showdown between the two sensational fighters, Morales will have to pay Pacquiao $500,000 if the Mexican weighs from 130.1 to 131 lbs.

    And if Morales weighs more than that, Pacquiao will be paid $1 million and given the option of just taking the money and not fighting the crafty Mexican for the third and last time.

    Pacquiao had previously said that if this happens, he would take the money, an easy P50 million, and still fight Morales. This way, he said, people wouldn’t think that he’s running away from the fight.

    Pacquiao and Morales are guaranteed $3 million each for the fight. If Morales goes overboard, and Pacquiao decides to just take the $1 million and run, there’ll be no fight, and logically, no fight purse.

    It was also announced that 10,000 tickets to the fight, set at the Thomas and Mack Center in Las Vegas, have been sold, from as low as $50 to as high as $500. Other ticket prices are $100, $200 and $300.

    When the fight contract was signed last July, Morales’ weight was severely questioned since he appeared to be weighing probably close to more than 160 lbs.

    The Morales camp tried to lure Pacquiao to a catch weight of 135 lbs. But the Filipino insisted on 130 lbs, leading to the "give-me-a-million-and-will-fight-you" clause if Morales goes overweight.

    Pacquiao never had problems with his weight as he prepared for this fight. Just the other day, his chief trainer Freddie Roach said the left-handed knockout artist is safe and sound at 135 lbs.

    Morales, on the other hand, has worked so hard over the last three months. He stayed in Los Angeles for a rigid 60-day weight reduction program at the high-tech Velocity Training Center.

    Then right after the Sept. 18 fight press conference at the Beverly Hills Hotel, the 30-year-old Morales moved straight to this secluded training camp in the mountains of Otomi, two hours away from Mexico City.
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    that ****in lozr is gonna follow Castillo's aka "cheating basterd" footstep. I for once hope Manny is the 1st one to say "No I'm not fight at 135lbs" **** these cheating ass maphockas.

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    • Abe Attell
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      I called it before: all these guys are going to struggle to make weight...Morales struggled last time and he is struggling again.

      The only "cheating bastards" are the guys like Pac and Diego who refuse to move up in weight to fight "healthy" fighters...they know Morales and Castillo can't make weight... if they (the fighters like Morales and Castillo) do make the weight, they have to kill themselves to make such a weight...Pac and Diego want the advantage of fighting flat/drained fighters, but it back-fired on Diego, I don't think it will with Pac.
      Morales should just pull out, since even if he does make the weight, he probably will not be strong...Of course he is strong at 140+, because that is what his body feels healthy at.

      The blame is on Castillo and Morales as well: if they know they can't make the weight they shouldn't try.

      Take Kostya Tszyu, the guy outgrew the weight division long ago, but he refused to move up, so what happnes? he starts to get injured as he gets older...part of it is a decline in the body's edocrine system/hormone levels, but combine that with forcing your body to make a weight that it doesn't want to do, it starts to reject your behavior of refusal.
      Last edited by Abe Attell; 10-21-2006, 09:09 PM.

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        Originally posted by Abe Attell
        I called it before: all these guys are going to struggle to make weight...Morales struggled last time and he is struggling again.

        The only "cheating bastards" are the guys like Pac and Diego who refuse to move up in weight to fight "healthy" fighters...they know Morales and Castillo can't make weight, and if they do, they have to kill themselves to make such a weight...Pac and Diego want the advantage of fighting flat/drained fighters, but it back-fired on Diego, I don't think it will with Pac.
        Morales should just pull out, since even if he does make the weight, he probably will not be strong...Of course he is strong at 140+, because that is what his body feels healthy at.



        Take Kostya Tszyu, the guy outgrew the weight division long ago, but he refused to move up, so what happnes? he starts to get injured as he gets older...part of it is a decline in the body's edocrine system/hormone levels, but combine that with forcing your body to make a weight that it doesn't want to do, it starts to reject your behavior of refusal.
        wtf? pac is a cheater becasue he wont move up? dude pac started at 106 at weighs almost 2 pounds lower than 130 everytime he fights. 135 is too big for pac already.

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        • Abe Attell
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          This is what I am saying: Pac and Diego state that they will not fight at a higher weight to make the fight happen...Castillo and Morales asked for the fight to be at a higher weight before, but Pac and Diego refused...so, since they know that Morales and Castillo are clearly saying "listen, making the weight is killing me, lets fight at a healthy weight", Pac and Diego are trying to get the advantage of fighting FLAT fighters instead of Healthy fighters.

          I don't see an Honor in fighting unhealthy fighters.

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            this is ghey. Morales should just be quiet. HE IS NOTHING!

            this guy don't want none of Pacquiao, THAT's why he's not trying to lose the weight so this fight doesn't happen. CHICKEN BROTH, bwok bwok.

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              He's on pace. Last time he was at 149 at this moment

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              • loui_ludwig
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                Originally posted by _Benjamin$_
                this is ghey. Morales should just be quiet. HE IS NOTHING!

                this guy don't want none of Pacquiao, THAT's why he's not trying to lose the weight so this fight doesn't happen. CHICKEN BROTH, bwok bwok.
                Now, slowly loosen the grip, Pac's ball is turning blue.

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                • ELPacman
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                  Your lacking logic if you believe Diego and Pac are cheaters because they signed a dotted line as did Morales and Castillo that the fight is to be fought at 130lbs or Diego-Castillo case of 135lbs. Theres no other way to argue this. They all signed which means they all agree with the weight. Just because someone can't make it doesn't mean the other guy is at fault for making his weight as in the contract. Don't say Manny or Diego should be fighting up in weight if they are at their better or true weights unlike the guys they are fighting. True Diego can move up to 140lbs at this point, though false that Manny can go up any further and be effective. He'll be killed at 135lbs.

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                    I hope the fight happens though,
                    And remember the Corraless irony.

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