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  • flipside
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    #21
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
    Hey, no one thought that that could happen to chico.
    I mean, the dude was braggin about making weight so often, one could have thought that he can make featherlimit. ANd see what happened.
    And besides, the weightin did not happen yet.
    No reason to slug off Eric.
    i aint sluggin no one.
    and i aint saying he cant make weight. i dont want this fight cancelled.comparing chico to pac is insane. chico stays in the steam room forever to make weight pac can make the 130 weight easy and he has never weighed in over 129. its his natural fighting weight unlik chico.

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    • Abe Attell
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      #22
      Originally posted by nelsoncm
      Morales had all the option in the world to move up to 135. He probably realized 135 is not for him, as Raheem gave him a taste of what it's like up there.

      Now calling Pac a cheat is different. It's like telling yourself I'm ****** for not fighting 135 when my best weight is 126 and I want the big fights at 130.

      I dunno what dishonor you are talking about, but the guy's best weight is 126 and he moved up just to fight Morales. In the first place, they gave Morales the option to take the 3rd fight or not, and he took it.

      Morales should have just moved to 135 long ago, but since he opted 130, he's still not a cheat. He just wants to take full advantage of smaller men. DOes that make him a cheat anyway?

      So ****ing don't make the fight...yeah, maybe it is Morales's fault for agreeing, but what I am saying is, Eric was a POOR MEXICAN who only knows MONEY is the key to get your ass out of Poverty...it doesn't matter how rich you are at the moment, that **** is built into your system from youth, that MONEY is you meal ticket.

      And if Morales were not to fight a 3rd time, I bet Pac and his people, which include fans and media, will call Morales a coward for not making the fight happen...that or HBO will not be to happy that he passed on a big money fight.

      What is 5 pounds ? If Morales isn't a true 135 pound fighter, what is the big deal ?

      You see, the ***** **** these P4P fighters ***** about gives me a ton of respect for fighters like Chris Byrd.

      I WANT TO SEE HEALTHY FIGHTERS FIGHT, NOT ONE HEALTHY AND THE OTHER DEAD.

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      • Abe Attell
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        #23
        Originally posted by nelsoncm
        And you see the lamest, laziest, super-flabby bitches in the heavyweight division who can't even throw a decent jab.
        BUT THAT IS THE REAL WORLD, THAT IS NATURE....YOU DON'T SEE GUYS ON THE STREET SAYING "I AM SORRY, I CAN'T FIGHT YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT IN MY WEIGHT CLASS"

        Chris fougt Wlad, and Wlad is pure muscle...even McCline is a big SOB

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          #24
          Originally posted by Abe Attell
          So ****ing don't make the fight...yeah, maybe it is Morales's fault for agreeing, but what I am saying is, Eric was a POOR MEXICAN who only knows MONEY is the key to get your ass out of Poverty...it doesn't matter how rich you are at the moment, that **** is built into your system from youth, that MONEY is you meal ticket.

          And if Morales were not to fight a 3rd time, I bet Pac and his people, which include fans and media, will call Morales a coward for not making the fight happen...that or HBO will not be to happy that he passed on a big money fight.

          What is 5 pounds ? If Morales isn't a true 135 pound fighter, what is the big deal ?

          You see, the ***** **** these P4P fighters ***** about gives me a ton of respect for fighters like Chris Byrd.

          Morales has soooo many options at 135, so don't say he's a poor Mexican who wants to save his ass from poverty. Pacquiao is a poor Pinoy too. SO that cancels out the reasoning.

          Who would want to call Morales a coward? You're putting words into fans' mouths.

          Morales is not a 130-lber right now. He has outgrown that division and should have just moved up. There's just no point sticking at 130 when you know all your preparation is to make weight, not to make a good fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Abe Attell
            BUT THAT IS THE REAL WORLD, THAT IS NATURE....YOU DON'T SEE GUYS ON THE STREET SAYING "I AM SORRY, I CAN'T FIGHT YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT IN MY WEIGHT CLASS"

            Chris fougt Wlad, and Wlad is pure muscle...even McCline is a big SOB
            That is the difference between a streetfight and boxing. Boxers are trained to fight at their best weight. Streetfighters are not. And you don't fight on the street purely with your fists. ANything you can grab, you use to your advantage.

            If that was the case, then it would be fair for Ricardo Lopez to fight Mike Tyson a decade ago.

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              #26
              Originally posted by nelsoncm
              Morales has soooo many options at 135, so don't say he's a poor Mexican who wants to save his ass from poverty. Pacquiao is a poor Pinoy too. SO that cancels out the reasoning.

              Who would want to call Morales a coward? You're putting words into fans' mouths.

              Morales is not a 130-lber right now. He has outgrown that division and should have just moved up. There's just no point sticking at 130 when you know all your preparation is to make weight, not to make a good fight.
              But look at all the **** you hear, "Morales is a cheater" or "Castillo cheated"...it takes more out of you tyring to kill yourself to make weight

              Morales vs Pac is a big fight with lots of money involved, that is hard to pass up.


              My point with Pac was this: Morales asked before to have the fight at the next weight up, but Pac said "NO"...so why talk about a 3rd fight to entice Morales into fighting if you know he is struggling? Why go through the media?

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                #27
                Originally posted by nelsoncm
                That is the difference between a streetfight and boxing. Boxers are trained to fight at their best weight. Streetfighters are not. And you don't fight on the street purely with your fists. ANything you can grab, you use to your advantage.

                If that was the case, then it would be fair for Ricardo Lopez to fight Mike Tyson a decade ago.
                But you see, Morales isn't at his best weight fighting Pac at Pac's weight...so, if Pac wants to fight at his own weight and not move up or give Morales a 5 pound "advantage", then don't talk about a fight.



                I don't ever remember reading about little Sam Langford ***** about fight Jack Johnson and all the other Heavyweights, so I never want to see any name like Chavez, Pac, and whoever above SAM LANGFORD.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Abe Attell
                  But look at all the **** you hear, "Morales is a cheater" or "Castillo cheated"...it takes more out of you tyring to kill yourself to make weight

                  Morales vs Pac is a big fight with lots of money involved, that is hard to pass up.


                  My point with Pac was this: Morales asked before to have the fight at the next weight up, but Pac said "NO"...so why talk about a 3rd fight to entice Morales into fighting if you know he is struggling? Why go through the media?
                  pac is at a disadvantage for a fight at 135. he is too small for 135 and not fighting at a disadvantage is not cheating

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                  • Abe Attell
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by flipside
                    pac is at a disadvantage for a fight at 135. he is too small for 135 and not fighting at a disadvantage is not cheating
                    Just look at Pac, when he went into that one fight, the fight in which he didn't make weight (if my facts are correct), looked like crap in the fight before getting knocked out by a body shot, is that considered an advantage or a disadvantage?

                    Should we call Pac a cheater?

                    In my opinion, I would rather fight in a weight class 5 pounds over my weight-class and get to fight a dead guy, then to have to drop weight and kill myself to make weight and have to fight a "Live" fighter.

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                      #30
                      Big surprise that a Philippine article tries to spin everything in Pacquiao's favor.

                      First of all, Morales tried to get a catchweight of 132 not 135. Second, of course Morales is still overweight because there is still almost a month left. Pacquiao himself is overweight right now. Morales also made the scheduled weight he was supposed to make so right now there shouldn't be any questions.

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