morales stil 142

[Manny_P]

I called it before: all these guys are going to struggle to make weight...Morales struggled last time and he is struggling again.

The only "cheating bastards" are the guys like Pac and Diego who refuse to move up in weight to fight "healthy" fighters...they know Morales and Castillo can't make weight... if they (the fighters like Morales and Castillo) do make the weight, they have to kill themselves to make such a weight...Pac and Diego want the advantage of fighting flat/drained fighters, but it back-fired on Diego, I don't think it will with Pac.
Morales should just pull out, since even if he does make the weight, he probably will not be strong...Of course he is strong at 140+, because that is what his body feels healthy at.

The blame is on Castillo and Morales as well: if they know they can't make the weight they shouldn't try.

Take Kostya Tszyu, the guy outgrew the weight division long ago, but he refused to move up, so what happnes? he starts to get injured as he gets older...part of it is a decline in the body's edocrine system/hormone levels, but combine that with forcing your body to make a weight that it doesn't want to do, it starts to reject your behavior of refusal.

Pac is a cheater?!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is grrrrreat! Someone get me a cereal.

[kg21mvp]

the fight will still take place eventhough if morales cant make the weight and he would have to pay 1mil to pac

[ispayder]

This is what I am saying: Pac and Diego state that they will not fight at a higher weight to make the fight happen...Castillo and Morales asked for the fight to be at a higher weight before, but Pac and Diego refused...so, since they know that Morales and Castillo are clearly saying "listen, making the weight is killing me, lets fight at a healthy weight", Pac and Diego are trying to get the advantage of fighting FLAT fighters instead of Healthy fighters.

I don't see an Honor in fighting unhealthy fighters.

Well, I don't know about your Diego but as far as Pacman/EM is concerned, they fought their first fight at 130, EM wins, fought the second fight at 130, Pacman wins. Soooooo..... to settle the score..it is only reasonable to do the third fight at 130. Do you get it.

[Abe Attell]

Your lacking logic if you believe Diego and Pac are cheaters because they signed a dotted line as did Morales and Castillo that the fight is to be fought at 130lbs or Diego-Castillo case of 135lbs. Theres no other way to argue this. They all signed which means they all agree with the weight. Just because someone can't make it doesn't mean the other guy is at fault for making his weight as in the contract. Don't say Manny or Diego should be fighting up in weight if they are at their better or true weights unlike the guys they are fighting. True Diego can move up to 140lbs at this point, though false that Manny can go up any further and be effective. He'll be killed at 135lbs.

I will go over this one more time:

Pac and Diego know that Morales and Castillo can't make the weight and be healthy for the fight...they shove money to make them (Morales and Castillo) forget short term that they can't make the weight and be healthy doing it, so when the weigh-in comes, they (being Morales and Castillo) find that it hasn't worked, even though they tried to do almost everything to make the weight, they were essentially tricked or fooled by the money placed in front of them...the Money is the bait, a bait that works the majority of the time when you are dealing with Fighters that only know poverty, and don't ever want to go back.

I am pretty sure that both Castillo and Morales asked for the fight at one point to be at a higher weight so that they could be positive that they could make the weight, and also be healthy. But, Pac and Diego refused because they don't want to fight healthy fighters...UNDERSTAND.


This is why I ****ing hate P4P bull**** and admire the Heavyweights more: there are no weight limits...nobody is bitching over 5 pounds...you didn't see Chris Byrd ***** that Klitsy weighed more than him by 30 pounds.

[nelsoncm]

I called it before: all these guys are going to struggle to make weight...Morales struggled last time and he is struggling again.

The only "cheating bastards" are the guys like Pac and Diego who refuse to move up in weight to fight "healthy" fighters...they know Morales and Castillo can't make weight... if they (the fighters like Morales and Castillo) do make the weight, they have to kill themselves to make such a weight...Pac and Diego want the advantage of fighting flat/drained fighters, but it back-fired on Diego, I don't think it will with Pac.
Morales should just pull out, since even if he does make the weight, he probably will not be strong...Of course he is strong at 140+, because that is what his body feels healthy at.

The blame is on Castillo and Morales as well: if they know they can't make the weight they shouldn't try.

Take Kostya Tszyu, the guy outgrew the weight division long ago, but he refused to move up, so what happnes? he starts to get injured as he gets older...part of it is a decline in the body's edocrine system/hormone levels, but combine that with forcing your body to make a weight that it doesn't want to do, it starts to reject your behavior of refusal.

Morales had all the option in the world to move up to 135. He probably realized 135 is not for him, as Raheem gave him a taste of what it's like up there.

Now calling Pac a cheat is different. It's like telling yourself I'm ****** for not fighting 135 when my best weight is 126 and I want the big fights at 130.

I dunno what dishonor you are talking about, but the guy's best weight is 126 and he moved up just to fight Morales. In the first place, they gave Morales the option to take the 3rd fight or not, and he took it.

Morales should have just moved to 135 long ago, but since he opted 130, he's still not a cheat. He just wants to take full advantage of smaller men. DOes that make him a cheat anyway?

[flipside]

I hope the fight happens though,
And remember the Corraless irony.

LOL! i dont think that will happen to pac.

[BrooklynBomber]

I will go over this one more time:

Pac and Diego know that Morales and Castillo can't make the weight and be healthy for the fight...they shove money to make them (Morales and Castillo) forget short term that they can't make the weight and be healthy doing it, so when the weigh-in comes, they (being Morales and Castillo) find that it hasn't worked, even though they tried to do almost everything to make the weight, they were essentially tricked or fooled by the money placed in front of them...the Money, is the bait, a bait that works the majority of the time when you are dealing with Fighters that only know poverty, and don't ever want to go back.

I am pretty sure that both Castillo and Morales asked for the fight at one point to be at a higher weight so that they could be positive that they could make the weight, and also be healthy. But, Pac and Diego refused because they don't want to fight healthy fighters...UNDERSTAND.


This is why I ****ing hate P4P bull**** and admire the Heavyweights more: there are no weight limits...nobody is bitching over 5 pounds...you didn't see Chris Byrd ***** that Klitsy weighed more than him by 30 pounds.

Agreed......................................
HW is prolly the ballsiest division in boxing.

[nelsoncm]

And you see the lamest, laziest, super-flabby bitches in the heavyweight division who can't even throw a decent jab.

[flipside]

I will go over this one more time:

Pac and Diego know that Morales and Castillo can't make the weight and be healthy for the fight...they shove money to make them (Morales and Castillo) forget short term that they can't make the weight and be healthy doing it, so when the weigh-in comes, they (being Morales and Castillo) find that it hasn't worked, even though they tried to do almost everything to make the weight, they were essentially tricked or fooled by the money placed in front of them...the Money is the bait, a bait that works the majority of the time when you are dealing with Fighters that only know poverty, and don't ever want to go back.

I am pretty sure that both Castillo and Morales asked for the fight at one point to be at a higher weight so that they could be positive that they could make the weight, and also be healthy. But, Pac and Diego refused because they don't want to fight healthy fighters...UNDERSTAND.


This is why I ****ing hate P4P bull**** and admire the Heavyweights more: there are no weight limits...nobody is bitching over 5 pounds...you didn't see Chris Byrd ***** that Klitsy weighed more than him by 30 pounds.

so by not agreeing to a disadvantage they're cheaters. i get it now.

[BrooklynBomber]

LOL! i dont think that will happen to pac.

Hey, no one thought that that could happen to chico.
I mean, the dude was braggin about making weight so often, one could have thought that he can make featherlimit. ANd see what happened.
And besides, the weightin did not happen yet.
No reason to slug off Eric.