Better legacy Trinidad or De La Hoya??

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  • Run
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    #31
    Originally posted by Left2body
    And DLH never beat Campas. Your saying that Tito's career is lacking to that of DLH's based on that fact that Tito didn't beat an over the hill JCC
    You're missing the point.

    Beating Julio Cesar Chavez is like beating Jesus Christ if you're Mexican.



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    • Black Pedro
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      #32
      Tito Trinidad.

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      • Easy-E
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        #33
        DLH, no question.

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        • BrooklynBomber
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          #34
          DLH so far........

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          • Left2body
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            #35
            Originally posted by RunWithKnives
            You're missing the point.

            Beating Julio Cesar Chavez is like beating Jesus Christ if you're Mexican.
            Yeah, I can understand how that could be perceived by the public as a great victory.

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            • vB Martin
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              #36
              Originally posted by Left2body
              Yeah, I can understand how that could be perceived by the public as a great victory.
              Not to mention that JCC had only lost 1 fight in 99 up to that point. Granted, most of the opposition were "Tijuana Taxi Drivers", but it's still an amazing record.

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              • vB Martin
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                #37
                Here's a side-by-side comparison of common opponents (and a nice who's who of boxing, to say the least):


                Tito De La Hoya

                Record Result Record Result
                Ricardo Mayorga 24-4-1 W TKO 8 28-5-1 W TKO 6
                Bernard Hopkins 39-2-1 L TKO 12 44-2-1 L KO 9
                Fernando Vargas 20-0-0 W TKO 12 22-1-0 W TKO 11
                Pernell Whitaker 40-2-1 W UD 12 40-1-1 W UD 12
                Oba Carr 32-0-0 W TKO 8 48-2-1 W TKO 11
                Luis Ramon Campas 56-0-0 W TKO 4 80-5-0 W TKO 7
                Hector Camacho 43-2-0 W UD 12 63-3-1 W UD 12


                With the exceptions of Sweetpea, Tito fought the opposition earlier in their careers while 4 of the 7 were still undefeated. He garnered
                better results against opposition that was still in its prime, whereas De La Hoya fought them on the downside of their careers and still, for the most part, took longer to put them away.
                In their one common loss, De La Hoya was put down faster and more brutally.

                Of course this in and of itself proves nothing, but it is telling. Both fighters fought great opposition that the other never touched, and De La Hoya did it across more weight divisions.

                Even though I liked Tito much more than De La Hoya, I still have to give the edge to De La Hoya overall.

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                • Rane-Ex54
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                  #38
                  Tito has the better legacy. Real Boxing fans know the facts. DHL is a pop star, by the media, especially HBO. DHL will be remembered longer because of his mass appeal, but Tito clearly has the better fighting legacy.

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                  • Abe Attell
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by vB Martin
                    Not to mention that JCC had only lost 1 fight in 99 up to that point. Granted, most of the opposition were "Tijuana Taxi Drivers", but it's still an amazing record.
                    A little hazy on my facts, but I think Oscar was the first person to knock him out...I know Kostya did it as well, but that was after...not sure if anybody else did it.

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                    • AREALFIGHTER
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                      #40
                      Tito has been destroyed twice, oscar never got beat down by anyone. The nature of those beat downs outstrip oscars controversial wins. Oscar did get beat by hopkins but he stood in there and made a fight of it were tito got ****d by hopkins or so I see it. Oscar also fought mosley twice lost both but they were close. oscar also won a gold medal to boot.

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