Joe Calzaghe - Hall Of Fame ???

[Shanus]

So if you consider Roy accomplishment mediocre after beating Toney. what about describing Calzaghe accomplishment at this point? **** outta here

His competition was mediocre after Toney, and in no way better than Calzaghe's have been, but not worse either.

[Nacho_Analstain]

he will get in,but i dont think hes worthy of it yet

[DiegoFuego]

Calzaghe's competition looks like **** compared to Roy's

I can name 5 or 6 Roy opponents more impressive than beating a shot Eubank or Jeff ****ing Lacy

[daggerdeux]

His competition was mediocre after Toney, and in no way better than Calzaghe's have been, but not worse either.

So what Calzaghe competition has been? Calzaghe beating a shot Eubank is better then beating a shot McCallum?? Beating LAcy is more then Roy beating Woods, Virgill Hill, Reggie Johnson, Griffin, Ruiz and Gonzales. **** outta here

[Shanus]

Calzaghe's competition looks like **** compared to Roy's

I can name 5 or 6 Roy opponents more impressive than beating a shot Eubank or Jeff ****ing Lacy

Like it or lump it, Calzaghe has fought the best of the competition provided, just because they are unknown in the US makes them un-impressive?

He hasn't fought the competition close to somebody like the guys Ray Leonard fought, or Muhammad Ali, but he's ducked nobody, never took the easy way out to my knowledge, I can say much less for your boy Roy.

The only downfall I see in Calzaghe's career is that he's prone to injury.

[daggerdeux]

Like it or lump it, Calzaghe has fought the best of the competition provided, just because they are unknown in the US makes them un-impressive?

He hasn't fought the competition close to somebody like the guys Ray Leonard fought, or Muhammad Ali, but he's ducked nobody, never took the easy way out to my knowledge, I can say much less for your boy Roy.

The only downfall I see in Calzaghe's career is that he's prone to injury.

Calling Roy Jones competition mediocre means you don't know jack about boxing. And now you are trying to say Calzaghe fought the best competition provided>>what kinda competition is that if you called Roy competition mediocre.

[Shanus]

Calling Roy Jones competition mediocre means you don't know jack about boxing. And now you are trying to say Calzaghe fought the best competition provided>>what kinda competition is that if you called Roy competition mediocre.

It's not my knowledge of boxing, it's fact.

You can't blame Calzaghe for living in a weak super middleweight division, but you can blame Roy for never fighting the man in any division at all.

[daggerdeux]

It's not my knowledge of boxing, it's fact.

You can't blame Calzaghe for living in a weak super middleweight division, but you can blame Roy for never fighting the man in any division at all.

Roy did not have to fight the man in the division because he was the man. Now tell me from middleweight to light heavyweight on Roy Jones prime, who was greater then him.

[cortdawg25]

What about him?

Roys accomplishments surpass Calzaghes, whether he fought the man or not, he was still champ at multiple weight divisions, but not to the point where he deserves to be in the HOF and Calzaghe doesn't.

Calzaghe has been the 'man to beat' at SMW for a long time.

It takes this back to the whole unified and defending champion vs multiple division champion.

And that's why I like fighters who fight in multiple weight classes, anybody who has some skill can dominate a weak division. I dont think Joe is HOF material, he has a lot to prove in short time and Bika aint a good start.

[Shanus]

Roy did not have to fight the man in the division because he was the man. Now tell me from middleweight to light heavyweight on Roy Jones prime, who was greater then him.

How the **** can one become the man without beating the man?

I can't tell you who was greater than him, because there's alot of controversy in his career, but I can tell you the fighters that he missed out on fighting.

Collins became the man of the SMW division after disposing of Eubank and Benn.

Fabrice Tiozzo (After not fighting Collins, he moves up right before Fabrice does the same thing)

Dariusz Michalczewski was LHW champion from 1994 to 2003, Jones was champ from 1996 to 2004, how can Roy Jones be the man at LHW when he fought for a VACANT LHW title, then winning belts from guys who did the exact same thing.