Joe Calzaghe - Hall Of Fame ???

[cortdawg25]

Roy did not have to fight the man in the division because he was the man. Now tell me from middleweight to light heavyweight on Roy Jones prime, who was greater then him.

Nobody, u right. roy did beat up a lot of bus drivers and he made a lot of decent fighter look like bus drivers. Roy, IMO, is way beyond Calzaghe. U beat Jeff Lacy, who a lot of people were giving the crown to and u follow that up with BIKA.

[daggerdeux]

How the **** can one become the man without beating the man?

I can't tell you who was greater than him, because there's alot of controversy in his career, but I can tell you the fighters that he missed out on fighting.

Collins became the man of the SMW division after disposing of Eubank and Benn.

Fabrice Tiozzo (After not fighting Collins, he moves up right before Fabrice does the same thing)

Dariusz Michalczewski was LHW champion from 1994 to 2003, Jones was champ from 1996 to 2004, how can Roy Jones be the man at LHW when he fought for a VACANT LHW title, then winning belts from guys who did the exact same thing.

SO beating the TOney, the man in Middleweight division does not qualify. **** outta here.

[Shanus]

SO beating the TOney, the man in Middleweight division does not qualify. **** outta here.

**** outta here?

Alright, it's hard to have a discussion when you're not reading what I'm saying.

Since when was Toney the man of the SMW division? That was self proclaimed, he was amongst a bunch of other top champs/contenders, there was no unified champion of the division at that time.

[PATO 1]

he beat JT at 168

[Shanus]

he beat JT at 168

My bad, that's what I meant.

[Katz]

beating inexperience Lacy and defending his title against bums wouldnt make him a HOF

[DarkSpyder]

He needs three more massive fights (hopefully Tarver, Winky & Taylor). He beats them? Definitely

[bsrizpac]

My apologies.

he was not "the man in that division" the whole time. He only unified later on in his reign. Not that he wasn't he "real champ" or that I care, but it's an argument you yourself are making aginst Roy.

In fact you use that exact argument against James Toney but then tout Calzaghe as the man of his division for how long? Think about it.

[daggerdeux]

**** outta here?

Alright, it's hard to have a discussion when you're not reading what I'm saying.

Since when was Toney the man of the SMW division? That was self proclaimed, he was amongst a bunch of other top champs/contenders, there was no unified champion of the division at that time.

So who did Calzaghe beat that was the Man in the division> I already took out Toney and Hopkins on JOnes list of victims and still Calzaghe list of competition is **** compare to Roy mediocre list. **** outta here

[bdevils]

And that's why I like fighters who fight in multiple weight classes, anybody who has some skill can dominate a weak division. I dont think Joe is HOF material, he has a lot to prove in short time and Bika aint a good start.

i couldn't of said it better myself. there's no doubt joe is talented but you just can't compare his resume to jones.