Y'all musta forgot

[Richard Head]

RE: (ill-looking) Toney KD. I don't count that as a legitimate KD. Yeah, it was CALLED, but if you watch it from a different angle Toney went down from colliding with Roy's body. I mean, we all know Toney was off balance and taken by surprise anyway, but it was a body clash, he didn't go down from the shot itself. Trust me, watch it from a different angle and you'll see.

Still, I don't take the Toney fight away from him, or the Hopkins fight to a lesser extent.

But this "virtual boxing" that we seem to have got into recently causes me much consternation. Look at how Floyd is saying that he doesn't have to fight certain opponents because he'd "beat them anyway". So many times with Roy an opponent's name is brought up (in particular, The Man at light-heavy) and the dismissive reply of "oh, he'd beat them anyway" is given. Maybe he would. Probably he would. But I watch boxing, I don't play guessing games and might have beens. I don't sit around saying "Muhammad Ali is a great heavyweight, he'd be able to beat Foreman and Frazier." I've watched him actually do it.

Some people might be satisfied watching someone who looked phenomenal do it against mediocre opposition... and Roy DOES look phenomenal when he's fighting Richard Hall. But for me, it's not enough.

Glencoffe Johnson mad Jones **** his draws! nuff said. Some legend yer nutthuggin..btw? Did you clean up Jones loaf after it was deposited on the canvas. I still can't believe Johnson mad "super" man **** himslef

[Guest]

Glencoffe Johnson mad Jones **** his draws! nuff said. Some legend yer nutthuggin..btw? Did you clean up Jones loaf after it was deposited on the canvas. I still can't believe Johnson mad "super" man **** himslef

I didn't understand a word of that really, but that brings up another point... Roy is clearly shot (witness his head being rocked back in the first thirty seconds of the Ajamu fight) but he still handled a hyperventilating Ajamu fairly easily. So does this decision to comeback harm his legacy, in that the old "he would have beaten Tarver and Glen Johnson anyway" routine is now slightly tarnished given that he's proven even AFTER losing to them that he's still got enough to beat the Ajamus of this world? (ie. someone on a par with most of his prime opponents).

[!! Mr. Soprano]

RIP Roy....

[shellroc513]

Roy being shot now and saying he never fought anybody worth wile is ******. anorak or what ever u say roy fought bums, did u look at my mans list of just some of the fighters roy fought. It's like my man said, roy didn't fight nobodys, he just made them look that way. anyone who says rjj is ovverated or fought nobody dosen't know boxing. What are u gonna say about pbf after he losed to baldi, "he was a bum anyway", "overated" as soon as a boxer loses, he is done or just rediculed to death. u guys stand back and talk **** because u never will have the balls to get the lions den. No man who gets in the ring is a bum.

[+= El Jefe=+]

RIP Roy....

hahaah a Klitscho fans talking about glass chins....

[Guest]

Roy being shot now and saying he never fought anybody worth wile is ******. anorak or what ever u say roy fought bums, did u look at my mans list of just some of the fighters roy fought. It's like my man said, roy didn't fight nobodys, he just made them look that way. anyone who says rjj is ovverated or fought nobody dosen't know boxing. What are u gonna say about pbf after he losed to baldi, "he was a bum anyway", "overated" as soon as a boxer loses, he is done or just rediculed to death. u guys stand back and talk **** because u never will have the balls to get the lions den. No man who gets in the ring is a bum.

What a generic post.

[Richard Head]

Well i was refering to the speculation the reason it took 15 + mins for Roy to get off the canvas was because when he was KOed he shat his draws and they were looking for a way for the chocolate pickles to stay in his draws! Klitschko does have a sub-par chin but he has never been KTFO! only TKOed...yeah yeah I know its not much better but, Roy got put to sleep and an jamacian enema off a very weak punch. Now gthats a glass chin

[grayfist]

Finito Lopez and Marciano retired unbeaten...
and they are still not liked

I think Finito is liked by those who remember him. Problem is, most have forgotten him.

[Kendo]

Well i was refering to the speculation the reason it took 15 + mins for Roy to get off the canvas was because when he was KOed he shat his draws and they were looking for a way for the chocolate pickles to stay in his draws! Klitschko does have a sub-par chin but he has never been KTFO! only TKOed...yeah yeah I know its not much better but, Roy got put to sleep and an jamacian enema off a very weak punch. Now gthats a glass chin

dude not for nothing you werent hit by that punch so you dont know. there are spots on your head that can knock you ****** from a soft punch. i can slap you hard in the temple and you will be dazed. he took alot of hard shots in that fight. so that was just the iceing on the cake punch. but come on wlad got KOed by lame-on brewster for christ sake. give me a break the worst HW champ next to john ruiz.

[GEOFFHAYES]

Jones was a big dissappointment.

He could of been involved in so many mouth-watering fights, but for whatever reason he wasn't.