Mike Tyson: "I'm No 'Iron Mike' Anymore"

[The Noose]

Arguing for the sake of arguing aye?

[HEAVYWEIGHT BOX]

The people in the "******" aren't usually small people at all...the eat high calorie, high protein, high saturated fat foods, while having to work labor jobs that build the muslce...same diet was used for ******...maybe it is a "conspiracy" that McDonalds has this type of nutrition value, I don't know

You do know Tyson, Bowe, Briggs, come from the same neighborhod...yes, I can see where you might see that they are small compared to the wealthy




I am still not sure exactly what you mean?
Do you mean they are just smart enough to not get into a street-fight, just avoid the ******?




I agree with a person must reach his goals before getting a women knocked up...I don't understand it either...there was a study though that said it is still better for both a male and a female to have a child while they are still in their 20's, while they are at their peak for hormone levels...the ***** is strongest in your 20's, then starts to slowly decline...it doesn't mean if you have a kid at 45+ that your swimmers aren't strong enough to pass on your genes, but they just aren't quite as strong...it is good to have a younger women though.




It was just a way of trying to get you to think about more than just yourself...people that wouldn't usually give two ****s about thier own mortality, might think twice if it is the lives of their children on the line...if you die, and your young kids die too, it means you were not able to pass on your genes, meaning, you are a failure in the eyes of nature.

I'm tired, so I'm going to pick out the BIGGEST flaw in your arguement.

"While having to work labour jobs that build the muscle"

Is this a joke?

In a hardcore labour job, you lift tiny amounts of weight.

Not nearly enough to stimulate muscle growth.

Look at the old timers. Many of them worked labour jobs.

Did they develope more muscle?

Well if they did, I'd hate to see what they looked like before!

[joenypr]

you guys are ******

[Abe Attell]

I'm tired, so I'm going to pick out the BIGGEST flaw in your arguement.

"While having to work labour jobs that build the muscle"

Is this a joke?

In a hardcore labour job, you lift tiny amounts of weight.

Not nearly enough to stimulate muscle growth.

Look at the old timers. Many of them worked labour jobs.

Did they develope more muscle?

Well if they did, I'd hate to see what they looked like before!

You do know that the ****** of America were stronger and bigger than the average man at the time, do you not know this?

Yes, I know it is "Taboo" to talk about it, but the bottom line is that the reason why "African Americans" are so dam big, is because of their past ancestors that had high protein, high calorie, high saturated fat, diets, who had to work in the fields, and were taken by the hands, with big male, and big female, to have a child.


Since you have a steroid freak on your avatar, I will use an example of two: Arnold and Franco...Arnold was bigger, yet he even said that Franco was stronger...Before Franco even took steroids, the guy was some type of strongman in the circus, besides the boxing. Not positive, but I think Franco's family were farmers/labor...when you have ancestors that work in labor, their muscles build for the job, build for survival...the muscle become tighly bound, becomes stronger, but it doesn't mean they grow insane amounts of mass since there muscles have to have the endurance to last 12+ hours.

In a hardcore labour job, you lift tiny amounts of weight

do you mean in today's society, or all the time, despite history?

[K-DOGG]

It appears the bad boy of boxing has begun to calm down with age. No longer the same man who crippled opponents in the ring, and rolled over anyone that got in his way outside the ring. [details]

Cool. Sounds like Mike is well on his way to finding that inner-peace that has alluded him for so long. I'm happy for him and wish him the best....and hope his exhibition tour comes to my neck of the woods.

Peace, Mike.

[HEAVYWEIGHT BOX]

You do know that the ****** of America were stronger and bigger than the average man at the time, do you not know this?

Yes, I know it is "Taboo" to talk about it, but the bottom line is that the reason why "African Americans" are so dam big, is because of their past ancestors that had high protein, high calorie, high saturated fat, diets, who had to work in the fields, and were taken by the hands, with big male, and big female, to have a child.


Since you have a steroid freak on your avatar, I will use an example of two: Arnold and Franco...Arnold was bigger, yet he even said that Franco was stronger...Before Franco even took steroids, the guy was some type of strongman in the circus, besides the boxing. Not positive, but I think Franco's family were farmers/labor...when you have ancestors that work in labor, their muscles build for the job, build for survival...the muscle become tighly bound, becomes stronger, but it doesn't mean they grow insane amounts of mass since there muscles have to have the endurance to last 12+ hours.



do you mean in today's society, or all the time, despite history?

I will yet again destroy your entire arguement.

In the past, hardcore labourers never had to carry more than 320lbs for more than a few metres at a time.

AND, sometimes they would even ask their fellow workers/****** for HELP in doing so.

[DarkSpyder]

Bingo.

Richard Simmons could have been a great "gang member".

Itis my belief, that people who have to go through terrible hardships, are very weak people deep down.

What a ****ing tool you are with that sweeping generalisation.

[HEAVYWEIGHT BOX]

What a ****ing tool you are with that sweeping generalisation.

OK, I admit, I was wrong to make that generalisation.

I do think however, the people should realize that this is a generalisation, and therefore not think "Man, that guy said that EVERY SINGLE PERSON OF THIS CLASS is such and such......"

But people do think like that, unfortunately.

So, let me make it clear.

The MAJORITY (meaning not EVERY SINGLE PERSON) who have gone through TERRIBLE HARDSHIP are weak people deep down.

Better?
I think that you'll think so.

Cheers.

[Abe Attell]

I will yet again destroy your entire arguement.

In the past, hardcore labourers never had to carry more than 320lbs for more than a few metres at a time.

AND, sometimes they would even ask their fellow workers/****** for HELP in doing so.

A study was done to see who had the highest levels of testosterone, the results were (1) Military (2) Labor...when the testosterone is higher, the muscle quality becomes better...testosterone levels will pass to your son through genes...yes, you can raise your natural levels of testosterone through your own hard work, but genetics will set the bar where you start, ex: some people are born with the ability to have test. levels at 750 ng, and others are born with incredible high levels that are closer to 1000 and above ng., while others are at 500ng or even lower. The harder you ancestors worked, the more that ate quality foods, the more they went to war, the more tail they caught, and the way their environment/land is shaped, will determine your genetics.
So, if you take these great genes, high testosterone, strong muscles from work, food intake, etc. and give it to a young kid that wants to workout with weights, he is going to be stronger than some "Rich" kid that had their ancestors sit on their ass.

So take the "Rich" kids: if they are not in an environment that calls for them to feel they need to survive everyday, don't have to do hard labor jobs, etc. their testoterone levels will not be quite as high, thus the reason why a lot seem to be so feminine looking. If you are "Rich", you bettr get your kid into football or wrestling.


I would like to know why you didn't answer my question, how come people from the "******", from the same neighborhod, Tyson, Bowe, and Briggs, are so dam big? I thought they were supposed to be small?
Bo Jackson was dirt poor growing up, yet he managed to be 6'1, 220lbs in his freshman year of college...boy, those genes sure are ****

I forget, how many of the NBA players suffered from malnutrition without being brought up "Rich"? Shaq, I could see how you think he probably suffered from low calcium intake

[HEAVYWEIGHT BOX]

A study was done to see who had the highest levels of testosterone, the results were (1) Military (2) Labor...when the testosterone is higher, the muscle quality becomes better...testosterone levels will pass to your son through genes...yes, you can raise your natural levels of testosterone through your own hard work, but genetics will set the bar where you start, ex: some people are born with the ability to have test. levels at 750 ng, and others are born with incredible high levels that are closer to 1000 and above ng., while others are at 500ng or even lower. The harder you ancestors worked, the more that ate quality foods, the more they went to war, the more tail they caught, and the way their environment/land is shaped, will determine your genetics.
So, if you take these great genes, high testosterone, strong muscles from work, food intake, etc. and give it to a young kid that wants to workout with weights, he is going to be stronger than some "Rich" kid that had their ancestors sit on their ass.

So take the "Rich" kids: if they are not in an environment that calls for them to feel they need to survive everyday, don't have to do hard labor jobs, etc. their testoterone levels will not be quite as high, thus the reason why a lot seem to be so feminine looking. If you are "Rich", you bettr get your kid into football or wrestling.


I would like to know why you didn't answer my question, how come people from the "******", from the same neighborhod, Tyson, Bowe, and Briggs, are so dam big? I thought they were supposed to be small?
Bo Jackson was dirt poor growing up, yet he managed to be 6'1, 220lbs in his freshman year of college...boy, those genes sure are ****

I forget, how many of the NBA players suffered from malnutrition without being brought up "Rich"? Shaq, I could see how you think he probably suffered from low calcium intake

After destroying your first arguement, I feel bad for destoying your second. But it has to be done.

Tyson was TINY. Even for his height he was small - he only weighed about 239lbs, at his HEAVIEST! BOWE: Looked fat as **** at 250! A big man does not look fat as **** at 250!

I am a MIDGET - 5'11, but I have been as high as 330lbs.

And guess what, I didn't look NEARLY as FAT as a 6'5 BOWE did at the tiny weight 250lbs! My stomach was bloated, but the size of my chest mirrored it. I just looked like a "strong man" (people said) at that weight.

If you look out of shape at 252 (I say 252 because that is the 18 stone mark - the mark of a big guy), you are a SMALL man.

End of Story.

When I am in great shape (six pack and all), I weigh 258lbs.