Bert Sugar's Top 100 Fighters Of All Time...

[Bonafide]

Where in the hell is Lennox ?

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Hopkins was more scared of Trinidad which is why he had to box to save his life, and refused to give Trinidad his rematch so for the time being Trinidad retired. Hopkins was no warrior in his fight with Trinidad or skilled fighter.

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[ferocity]

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Hopkins lied to me! ****en *******! "I will stand and fight with Trinidad" yeah, sure you will Bernard

Ok, he's got some skills, but some of his nuthuggers putt him in Whitiker type of skills.

[miron_lang]

Only cos he beat him does'nt mean he accomplished as much

he deserved to be in there.

He was undefeated @130 for 7 years when there's only one division. that means he was undesputed for 7 yrs.

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Hopkins lied to me! ****en *******! "I will stand and fight with Trinidad" yeah, sure you will Bernard

Ok, he's got some skills, but some of his nuthuggers putt him in Whitiker type of skills.

look to me whitaker, chavez, hopkins all have great skills

whitaker defense
chavez offense
hopkins both (but none on the same level as the two above)

I think that what black jesus is writing is not blaspheme towards jc. I am not reading anywhere stuff like "jc does not belong to the list" and stuff like that.

You on the other hand are writing stuff like "pea had to cheat" or disregarding hopkins performance against tito, which was a dismantling like we have seldom seen, put up by the underdog I would add. (and hop did stand there for tito after getting a feeling of what tito got)

Just take it easy, dont get nervous and write that stuff: you'll have to tolerate many ppl underrating jc skills because they are not obvious to see as whitaker making you miss every punch or mayweather rolling and countering a barrage of punches. I think it takes a better understanding of boxing to grasp what chavez is doing on the inside. eg: when he switches continuosly (and fluidly). In my experience I never knew what artist chavez was until I sparred.

[TheGreat1]

Holyfield is way too high.

i thought he was too low, but then again i remember the Holyfield in his prime, his 10 year prime

[TheGreat1]

Where in the hell is Lennox ?

i don't know LL would have beat th e**** otta half of those HW on there. I can't beleive Jack Johnson was so high

[kg21mvp]

Chavez was a very skilled fighter.
There was quality in every shot.

but, is there any quality in his opponents?

[daggerdeux]

Hopkins lied to me! ****en *******! "I will stand and fight with Trinidad" yeah, sure you will Bernard

Ok, he's got some skills, but some of his nuthuggers putt him in Whitiker type of skills.

The bottomline line is Hopkins did whatever needed to be done to get the Ws and in Trinidad case , Hopkins knock the **** out Tito. Let's face it, Hopkins is a technical fighter with a lot of tricks. He's no Sweat Pea when it comes to skills but he's skilled enought to be an all time great. Sugar made that list before Hopkins beat Tarver. When Sugar make a list again, I am quite sure he should be higher.

[onetwopunch]

After the top 10 i think the rest arent in ranking order there is no way Chavez is 17 and Leornard and Zarate, Hagler are way below him.