Great Article On James Toney And Saturday's Fight...

[Bozo_no no]

No even rounds? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the judges in this fight score a few rounds even?

I know I had one round 9-9 and another 10-10. It was hard to give some rounds to either of them when Toney only controlled the first half of the round and then let Peter take the other half.

Diego has no idea what he's talking about. He's an angry little college kid who's been watching boxing for a year and a half.

He heard someone say judges are discouraged from scoring even rounds (which is true to an extent) and he somehow thinks that translates into no one being allowed to score even rounds ever.

Judges score even rounds all the time.

He has no idea what he's talking about.

[superchamp]

I have no arguent that Toney won the fight; he did, clearly. I went back and watched the fight again; and the two 10-10 rounds I'd scored, I ended up spliting...the 9-9 round I'd scored I ended up changing to a 10-8 round for Toney, which made my finally tally 115-112 for James.

My whole point is that there is more to scoring a professional prize fight that just clean punching, which is how the amateurs are scored. In several of the rounds, Peter had one punch that equaled 10 of Toney's.....power and perceived dominance is what Professional boxing is all about. If one fighter has the edge in power, the other one better make him look like an amateur to win clearly.....James, in some rounds, did that; but as has been the case throughout his career....most notably against Dave Tiberri.....he took time off in some rounds, which counts against him; and is why I say he didn't "dominate", persay. If James had fought all fight as he did in his spurts, he would have easily dominated the less-learned Peter. His sporatic inactivity is what has always driven me nuts as far as Toney is concened.....and what I was trying to emphasise.

If one of Peter's shots was worth 10 of Toney's, then why was Peter's face bloodied and swollen at the end of the fight and why didn't Toney have a mark on him. Even more so, why wasn't Toney knocked out if Peter hits that hard.

That's the issue here. Peter is getting too much credit for his perceived power. If his power was actually being used effectively, Toney shouldn't have been standing and should have been battered and bruised. He wasn't, but for some reason Peter was.

[K-DOGG]

If one of Peter's shots was worth 10 of Toney's, then why was Peter's face bloodied and swollen at the end of the fight and why didn't Toney have a mark on him. Even more so, why wasn't Toney knocked out if Peter hits that hard.

That's the issue here. Peter is getting too much credit for his perceived power. If his power was actually being used effectively, Toney shouldn't have been standing and should have been battered and bruised. He wasn't, but for some reason Peter was.

If one punch knocks a man back to the point to where it's obvioius he's the stronger fighter, it make a difference.

Peter got hit more because Toney wasn't really hurting him and he felt no need to cover up; but of course if you hit a man enough, blood vessels will break and his face will swell and bleed, whether you rattle him or not.

I'm not arguing that Toney didn't hit him more...of course he did...it's about perception during the 3:00 minute round.

[!! Mr. Soprano]

No even rounds? Correct me if I'm wrong, but didnt the judges in this fight score a few rounds even?

I know I had one round 9-9 and another 10-10. It was hard to give some rounds to either of them when Toney only controlled the first half of the round and then let Peter take the other half.

Two judges who got Peter.. had round 9th round as a 9-9 (point deduction) the judge that had Toney had the round as 8-10.

I posted the copy of the score cards, or go to *********.com to view it.