Lennox was NOT a great champion!

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    #51
    Originally posted by phxboxingfan
    Douglas knew he got lucky against Tyson, he knew Tyson wasn't 100 % for him so, he chose to fight Holyfield instead of a rematch, figuring he'd blow the little man away. I don't think Tyson had much to do with a rematch.
    Don King saw his gravy train end, and made the Holy-Douglas fight.

    Yes I can deny that Lewis had the far superior career over Tyson. They were both big draws, but Tyson was the biggest draw. And I think he fought the better quality opponents. Even after prison Tyson came back and won 2 titles. So lets see if in what? another year or so, if Lewis comes back and see if he can do it too after over 3 years away.
    thats a TOTAL lie


    second tyson beat the 2weakes champs at the time in seldon an bruno to win his hardly say thats a accomplishment worthy of hof alone

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    • American_Ninja
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      #52
      Originally posted by Goldenboyprm
      Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield would have gave Mike Tyson trouble at any point in his career.
      I'd have to agree with the Holyfield part. He was a great warrior. But I think that in the end Tyson would catch him for a KO, or UD. If the fight had taken place when it was originally supposed to, it surely would have been a good one. Pre-prison Tyson.

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      • shellroc513
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        #53
        just a quick note, can u guys vote if not already, on if LL was a great champ or not. I want so good results and opinions, please

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          #54
          Originally posted by El Temible
          thats a TOTAL lie


          second tyson beat the 2weakes champs at the time in seldon an bruno to win his hardly say thats a accomplishment worthy of hof alone
          A lie? That's my opinion based on my knowledge and belief. Weak Champions?
          But still they held the belts. This, after 3 and a half years in prison. FACT.


          ROCK ON

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          • The Noose
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            #55
            Originally posted by Bozo_no no
            Joe Louis, Ezzard Charrles, Floyd Patterson, Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Mike Tyson Evander Holyfield...

            all stopped in title fights.
            Lewis was beaten, not by great fighters, not in a really tough fight.
            He was caught and KO'd because he was overconfident, and unfocused.
            Avenging loses to fighters he should never have lost to in the first place doesnt make him a great champion.

            Ali beating Spinks in the rematch didnt make Ali any better of a champion IMO. He beat a guy he should have beaten the first time around. And Ali was already great.

            I give Lewis all the credit in the world for being a dominant champion, and at his best he was great.

            But dismissing his loses by saying "he was just unfocused that night" happens too often. Im not discrediting him for losing, but for the manner in which he lost and to the opposition he lost to.

            Basically wat im saying is with heavywieghts, anything can happen, but for it to happen twice with Lewis always makes me question him as a truly great champion.
            He was great, but i question his greatness.

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            • phallus
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              #56
              Originally posted by Bobby Peru
              Lewis was beaten, not by great fighters, not in a really tough fight.
              He was caught and KO'd because he was overconfident, and unfocused.
              Avenging loses to fighters he should never have lost to in the first place doesnt make him a great champion.

              Ali beating Spinks in the rematch didnt make Ali any better of a champion IMO. He beat a guy he should have beaten the first time around. And Ali was already great.

              I give Lewis all the credit in the world for being a dominant champion, and at his best he was great.

              But dismissing his loses by saying "he was just unfocused that night" happens too often. Im not discrediting him for losing, but for the manner in which he lost and to the opposition he lost to.

              Basically wat im saying is with heavywieghts, anything can happen, but for it to happen twice with Lewis always makes me question him as a truly great champion.
              He was great, but i question his greatness.

              for me, the only stain on lewis' record is that he refused to fight chris byrd when byrdy was in his prime and deserved a title shot. i know byrd couldn't hurt lewis, and lewis said he refused the fight because byrd had no chance, i disagree, lewis would have won by decision / late TKO but i think the real reason he ducked byrd was the skillz of byrd would make him look bad, lennox didn't want another ugly win

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              • DiegoFuego
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                #57
                LENNOX KILLED EVERYONE HE IS a great champion and WAS THE GREAT CHAMP THAT HE IS and remember what he did to ****in EVERYONE

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                • TheEvilSaint
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                  LENNOX KILLED EVERYONE HE IS a great champion and WAS THE GREAT CHAMP THAT HE IS and remember what he did to ****in EVERYONE
                  this over-emotional post proves you should not be listened to on this subject, much less any other subject.

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                  • DiegoFuego
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
                    this over-emotional post proves you should not be listened to on this subject, much less any other subject.
                    YOU ARE THE ANTITHESIS OF ME, EVIL SAINTS

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                    • TheEvilSaint
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by DiegoFuego
                      YOU ARE THE ANTITHESIS OF ME, EVIL SAINTS
                      i rest my case, and thank you.

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