Lennox was NOT a great champion!

[American_Ninja]

please anyone arguin against the fact are embarrassing yourselves#

he was a better fighter than Tyson ever was

That is your opinion. Tyson before prison would have KO'd Lewis. IMO.
Something happened to him in the joint, maybe he was ****d, who knows.
Kid Dynamite was the best thing to happen to the HW division since Ali.
Those you say are embarrassing themselves, at least can spell.

[ReadyUp]

Tyson was never KO'd by one punch. Neither was Ali. Tyson took a beat down for 10 rounds. Even the withered Ali lasted 11 with Prime Holmes.
Lewis was KO'd not once, but twice with single punches.

So what's your point?

Getting caught with one punch is worse than getting beaten down for an entire fight? I don't think so.

[American_Ninja]

So what's your point?

Getting caught with one punch is worse than getting beaten down for an entire fight? I don't think so.

Two things can produce a KO. Superior skills, superior conditioning. Gotta have 1 or the other for a KO. Boxing basics 101. But for a Champion to lose twice by 1 punch KO, shows that A. he didn't care about the fight or B. He was not the superior fighter that night. Tyson was worn down, then KO'd by a series of punches, his conditioning and skill were very close to that of his opponents. The last thing that comes into play is Heart. Against Douglas Tyson showed a lot of heart, even in the first Holy fight he showed heart. The point is that IMO Lewis didn't have HEART. OK???? OK!!!

PEACE

[ReadyUp]

Two things can produce a KO. Superior skills, superior conditioning. Gotta have 1 or the other for a KO. Boxing basics 101. But for a Champion to lose twice by 1 punch KO, shows that A. he didn't care about the fight or B. He was not the superior fighter that night. Tyson was worn down, then KO'd by a series of punches, his conditioning and skill were very close to that of his opponents. The last thing that comes into play is Heart. Against Douglas Tyson showed a lot of heart, even in the first Holy fight he showed heart. The point is that IMO Lewis didn't have HEART. OK???? OK!!!

PEACE

Let's review.

Tyson and Lewis both lost to fighters they should have beaten.

Tyson was throughly trounced for 10 rounds by 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas. Yes, he showed heart by taking alot of shots. But how does that compare to Rahman and McCall landing the shot of their lives?

Did Lewis not have heart for seeking immediate rematches and avenging his losses? I don't recall Tyson doing that.

There are alot more things that can produce a KO other than the two factors you mentioned. Raw power, luck, and an assortment of other things can be listed as well.

You cannot deny that Lewis had the far SUPERIOR career over Mike Tyson.

[PATO 1]

tyson was also supposed to beat holyfield

[ReadyUp]

tyson was also supposed to beat holyfield

Exactly.

It's just that people like to excuse the second half of Tysons career saying it wasn't the real "Tyson".

But was it the jail time that did Tyson in or was it the opponents?

[Dye]

Exactly.

It's just that people like to excuse the second half of Tysons career saying it wasn't the real "Tyson".

But was it the jail time that did Tyson in or was it the opponents?

the opponents

[ReadyUp]

the opponents

Lennox Lewis and Evander Holyfield would have gave Mike Tyson trouble at any point in his career.

[American_Ninja]

Let's review.

Tyson and Lewis both lost to fighters they should have beaten.

Tyson was throughly trounced for 10 rounds by 42-1 underdog Buster Douglas. Yes, he showed heart by taking alot of shots. But how does that compare to Rahman and McCall landing the shot of their lives?

Did Lewis not have heart for seeking immediate rematches and avenging his losses? I don't recall Tyson doing that.

There are alot more things that can produce a KO other than the two factors you mentioned. Raw power, luck, and an assortment of other things can be listed as well.

You cannot deny that Lewis had the far SUPERIOR career over Mike Tyson.

Douglas knew he got lucky against Tyson, he knew Tyson wasn't 100 % for him so, he chose to fight Holyfield instead of a rematch, figuring he'd blow the little man away. I don't think Tyson had much to do with a rematch.
Don King saw his gravy train end, and made the Holy-Douglas fight.

Yes I can deny that Lewis had the far superior career over Tyson. They were both big draws, but Tyson was the biggest draw. And I think he fought the better quality opponents. Even after prison Tyson came back and won 2 titles. So lets see if in what? another year or so, if Lewis comes back and see if he can do it too after over 3 years away.

[beez721]

Tyson was never KO'd by one punch. Neither was Ali. Tyson took a beat down for 10 rounds. Even the withered Ali lasted 11 with Prime Holmes.
Lewis was KO'd not once, but twice with single punches.

no denying tyson had the better chin of the 2,,,but lewis still would have beaten any version of tyson