Is Margarito so Great or is it Pure Floyd Hate?

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  • !! $iN
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    #61
    Originally posted by trueboxingfan
    no they were both actually just coming off losses or were just KTFO. thats not hating....doesnt matter what someone career resume looks like that makes them credible its where they are when you fight them, are they old? washed up? recenlty beat by a 16 to 1 underdog?..ya see? that SHOULD makes sense......
    Andrew Lewis was coming off getting KTFO by Mayorga. Diaz was coming off getting KO by Mosley. Guess those wins mean jack **** then. I can't take nothing away from the Lujan and Kyvelos wins, though.

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    • bakey321
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      #62
      Originally posted by trueboxingfan
      no they were both actually just coming off losses or were just KTFO. thats not hating....doesnt matter what someone career resume looks like that makes them credible its where they are when you fight them, are they old? washed up? recenlty beat by a 16 to 1 underdog?..ya see? that SHOULD makes sense......
      A challenger who just lost a few fights ago to a future hall of famer is a lot more of a challenge than a guy who has fought a list full of nobodies for his entire career and piled up a good record. Bernard Hopkins lost twice and still got the shot to go up to fight Tarver. He is a big name, proven fighter who lost to a great boxer. Should someone who had done nothing got that fight instead? See what I'm saying?

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      • !! Anorak
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        #63
        Originally posted by bakey321
        It doesn't do as much for his legacy as beating the Champ at the same weight for the same money.
        Yeah, Floyd is back on track NOW. While it's possible to argue that Baldomir isn't a competitive match-up, it's irrelevant because it means Floyd is taking on the linear champ and becoming (if he wins) The Man at 147. So he solidifies the weight status, rather than just being a paper champ.

        But back when it was people like Gatti, Mitchell... it really did seem like he was handpicking his opponents and just going for easy options, whether by fault or design. And you don't have to be a "hater" to say that.

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          #64
          Originally posted by bakey321
          A challenger who just lost a few fights ago to a future hall of famer is a lot more of a challenge than a guy who has fought a list full of nobodies for his entire career and piled up a good record. Bernard Hopkins lost twice and still got the shot to go up to fight Tarver. He is a big name, proven fighter who lost to a great boxer. Should someone who had done nothing got that fight instead? See what I'm saying?
          are you comparing Hopkins,,with 20 title defenses losing to a PRIME Taylor in two very close fights THEN FIGHTING TARVER to A 35 yr old Sharmba who was just KTFO by ZU THEN fighting Floyd? or comparing Zab Judah to Hopkins??? zab LOST TO A 16 TO 1 UNDERDOG..WHO IS 34 YR OLD.


          I CANT TAKE U SERIOUSLY..PEACE YOUR A JOKE

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          • bakey321
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            #65
            Originally posted by !! Anorak
            Yeah, Floyd is back on track NOW. While it's possible to argue that Baldomir isn't a competitive match-up, it's irrelevant because it means Floyd is taking on the linear champ and becoming (if he wins) The Man at 147. So he solidifies the weight status, rather than just being a paper champ.

            But back when it was people like Gatti, Mitchell... it really did seem like he was handpicking his opponents and just going for easy options, whether by fault or design. And you don't have to be a "hater" to say that.
            I will give you one thing, Mitchell. Sharmba was a handpicked opponent to get Floyd a tuneup against a slick southpaw. If you remember, at the time Floyd was considering Judah and Winky for his next fight. Both are southpaws. He fought a good boxer, not a great one, but you have to give Mitchell credit for being a good talent. Gatti, however, was the champ at 140 and Floyd wanted the title. You can say that Gatti was a bum, but the fact remains that he was the champ.

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            • trueboxingfan
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              #66
              Originally posted by bakey321
              I will give you one thing, Mitchell. Sharmba was a handpicked opponent to get Floyd a tuneup against a slick southpaw. If you remember, at the time Floyd was considering Judah and Winky for his next fight. Both are southpaws. He fought a good boxer, not a great one, but you have to give Mitchell credit for being a good talent. Gatti, however, was the champ at 140 and Floyd wanted the title. You can say that Gatti was a bum, but the fact remains that he was the champ.
              Gatti wasnt the "champ" Kosta Zu was then Ricky Hatton...



              AGAIN,. YOU'RE BOXING KNOWLEDGE IS VERY LIMITED. JOKE

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              • !! $iN
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                #67
                Originally posted by trueboxingfan
                are you comparing Hopkins,,with 20 title defenses losing to a PRIME Taylor in two very close fights THEN FIGHTING TARVER to A 35 yr old Sharmba who was just KTFO by ZU THEN fighting Floyd? or comparing Zab Judah to Hopkins??? zab LOST TO A 16 TO 1 UNDERDOG..WHO IS 34 YR OLD.


                I CANT TAKE U SERIOUSLY..PEACE YOUR A JOKE
                He's trying to say Margarito is a nobody...

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                • trueboxingfan
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by SiN
                  He's trying to say Margarito is a nobody...
                  AGAIN,. YOU'RE BOXING KNOWLEDGE IS VERY LIMITED. JOKE

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                  • bakey321
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by trueboxingfan
                    are you comparing Hopkins,,with 20 title defenses losing to a PRIME Taylor in two very close fights THEN FIGHTING TARVER to A 35 yr old Sharmba who was just KTFO by ZU THEN fighting Floyd? or comparing Zab Judah to Hopkins??? zab LOST TO A 16 TO 1 UNDERDOG..WHO IS 34 YR OLD.


                    I CANT TAKE U SERIOUSLY..PEACE YOUR A JOKE
                    I thought I asked you to read what I wrote not what you wanted me to write. I said nothing about Mitchell, Judah or Baldomir. I gave a situation where a loss against a good fighter doesn't diminish another fighters skills. Are you so ****** that you can't just read what I write and take it as that? Charlie, I think that proves that you are obsessed with Floyd. I said nothing involving him, yet you somehow turned it into something to do with him. YOU MA'AM ARE A JOKE.

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                    • !! $iN
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by trueboxingfan
                      AGAIN,. YOU'RE BOXING KNOWLEDGE IS VERY LIMITED. JOKE
                      Sorry, I guess only the 6 people that ordered Margarito-Gomez have real boxing knowledge...

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